questionnaire:
1. Are u male or female?
2. Nationality:.................
3. Do you agree with the intro of ID cards in the UK?
Agree Disagree Dont Know
4. How do u feel bout the UK being the only EU country without an ID card?
Like Dislike Not Sure
5. Would u stop using ur passport if u have a ID card
Yes No Not sure
6. How do u feel bout ur personal details such as ur finger print, eye scanning been placed on the national register?
Strongly agree Agree disagree Disagree
Unsure
7. What age do u think individuals should be permitted to obtain an ID card?
8. Do u think people should pay a fine of £2000 for not having a ID card?
Yes No Not sure
9. How often do you go aboard?
10. Do u think by using a ID card u can save time at passport control?
Yes No Not sure
Questionnaire based on the introduction of ID cards in the UK. please take a few minutes to fill questionnaire
1. Female
2. British (English)
3. Agree
4. Not sure
5. No
6. Agree
7. 15
8. No
9. Once or twice a year
10. No
Reply:It is the gathering of information like this in a central repository that is so objectionable, not the cards per se!
Reply:1) Female
2) British
3) Disagree
4) Not Sure
5) No
6) Disagree
7) Don't think they should, unless they really want to for some odd reason.
8) No
9) Once a year if I'm lucky
10) Not sure
Reply:1) female
2) British
3) Agree
4) Not sure
5) No
6) Agree
7) 16
8) No
9) As often as possible
10) No
Reply:1. Male
2. British/English
3. No
4. Like
5. Don't have a passport
6. Disagree
7. 21
8. No
9. Never
10. No
P.S. I'm disabled and housebound so I hope, if biometric data is included, they have transportable readers they can bring to my house otherwise the cards are discriminatory.
Reply:Male
British
No
Good
No
Bad
97
No
Frequently
No
Reply:1. Male
2. British
3. Disagree
4. Like
5. No - legally you would still have to have one
6. Strongly against it
7. Not at all.
8. No
9. twice a year
10. Of course not - it takes a split second as it is.
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
What can one do to protest the national ID card?
Regardless of whether or not you think the national ID card is a bad idea, what do you think is the most affective way to protest it? Leaving the country? Just curious. Thanks.
What can one do to protest the national ID card?
Speak your mind openly about the subject
Find others that share your views
and encourage others to do the same !!
Reply:thats about all you can do if you dnt want it, one way or another sooner or later its coming
Reply:There is already a national campaign against ID cards here:
http://www.no2id.net/
Reply:No one protested it during the war...so WHY now..best thing that could happen i personally think ?
But if thats what you want then scream at your MP...and make your voice heard....thats the wonderful thing about democracy !
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What can one do to protest the national ID card?
Speak your mind openly about the subject
Find others that share your views
and encourage others to do the same !!
Reply:thats about all you can do if you dnt want it, one way or another sooner or later its coming
Reply:There is already a national campaign against ID cards here:
http://www.no2id.net/
Reply:No one protested it during the war...so WHY now..best thing that could happen i personally think ?
But if thats what you want then scream at your MP...and make your voice heard....thats the wonderful thing about democracy !
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I D THEFT Milatary ID card in addition to credit cards?
Addition to my original I D Theft question
Besides my credit cards, she has my Milatary ID,using for medical thru Champus Tricare. Upwards now of $ 600,000.00 in medical billed to our Government.
The VA dept. is no help
This falls under numerous DOD fraud and then some.
My card does not stop expire until 2009.
Who in the state dept do I contact?
She has to be stopped.
I know of many others getting new Soc Sec Number. So it is possible.
Anymore help out ther?
I D THEFT Milatary ID card in addition to credit cards?
Report it to local police, banks, Soc. Sec. office and to all concerned and obtain their acknowledgements of receipt.
Besides my credit cards, she has my Milatary ID,using for medical thru Champus Tricare. Upwards now of $ 600,000.00 in medical billed to our Government.
The VA dept. is no help
This falls under numerous DOD fraud and then some.
My card does not stop expire until 2009.
Who in the state dept do I contact?
She has to be stopped.
I know of many others getting new Soc Sec Number. So it is possible.
Anymore help out ther?
I D THEFT Milatary ID card in addition to credit cards?
Report it to local police, banks, Soc. Sec. office and to all concerned and obtain their acknowledgements of receipt.
What does an american tax id card look like?
i have heard there is a tax id card. it's like a social security card, except you cant work with it.
What does an american tax id card look like?
An ITIN number issued for tax purposes is no longer issued as a card, as people were using it as a SS card.
If you qualify for an ITIN and your application is complete, you will receive a letter from the IRS assigning your tax identification number, usually within four to six weeks. The IRS has changed from an ITIN card to an authorization letter to avoid any possible similarities with a Social Security Number card. Current ITIN holders' cards will not be replaced; they should continue to use the numbers previously issued when they need to supply identifying numbers for tax purposes.
If you have not received your ITIN or other correspondence six weeks after applying, you may call the IRS to find out the status of your application.
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0...
Reply:It looks exactly like a social security card, except the first number is always 9.
What does an american tax id card look like?
An ITIN number issued for tax purposes is no longer issued as a card, as people were using it as a SS card.
If you qualify for an ITIN and your application is complete, you will receive a letter from the IRS assigning your tax identification number, usually within four to six weeks. The IRS has changed from an ITIN card to an authorization letter to avoid any possible similarities with a Social Security Number card. Current ITIN holders' cards will not be replaced; they should continue to use the numbers previously issued when they need to supply identifying numbers for tax purposes.
If you have not received your ITIN or other correspondence six weeks after applying, you may call the IRS to find out the status of your application.
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0...
Reply:It looks exactly like a social security card, except the first number is always 9.
Would a national ID card be a way of identifying illegal aliens?
If proof of legal residency is required to get an ID card, would the upshot be that anyone without one is here illegally? I'm interested in your thoughts about this and about the idea of a national ID card in general.
Would a national ID card be a way of identifying illegal aliens?
I don't think it would work,
~You are only suppose to get a SSN if you are legal but illegals still get them
~You are only suppose to get a driving license if you are legal but illegals still get them
~You are only suppose to get mortgages etc if you are legal yet illegals manage to get them
~You are only suppose to get social benefits if you are legal/US citizen but illegals still get them
~You are are suppose to be able to open a bank account with a valid SSN, which a illegal does not have but they still open an account
Do you get my point?
There is always a way around the system, and they is always someone who works for that system who is willing is abuse it. Case in point workers at the DMV in my state were arrested and charged, lost their jobs as well for selling driving licenses to illegals in the area.
Reply:i work will a girl who was argueing the right for illegal aliens to have drivers licenses! If someone is here ILLEGALLY well duh that means they souldn't be here at all let alone have legal rights inside our country! i dont think another id card will solve anything! illegal aliens will come here and stay as long as we let them. they get their hands on ssn#s and birth certificates whos to say they wouldnt be able to get a national id card?!?!
Reply:Why go through all the expense. Just raise the standards to acquire a State Drivers License and put a chip in it!
Reply:So we give IDs to the illegals that stole IDs from the citizens%26gt; That makes real since%26gt;So they can be deported????Or stay here%26gt; Smell like amnesty of some sort%26gt;Must be a liberal illegal sellout again%26gt;Even by a Rep%26gt;
Reply:Not necessarily. A lot of people are here on work visa's and such, so you cant just assume that they are here illegal.
Reply:no, anything can be faked.....but it would be a good way to let the gov. track you and spit.....
Reply:They fake drivers licenses and green cards, they would just fake national ID cards too.
I'm all for national security, but I'm not ready to be stopped at say, the Texas Oklahoma boarder, by a jack booted Nazi thug, asking "may I see your papers please?".
I value my freedom, I'll trade a little security for it. For now anyway.
Reply:I'm wary of a national ID card. What exactly would be on it? I doubt it would make a difference when it comes to illegal aliens though. How could it? Unless people had to wear them like badges and then you could see - there is someone who doesn't have one.
Reply:We have national ID....it's your social security number...has it helped any?
Reply:I have a live birth certificate and a California drivers License
that I remember I NEEDED to get it..
but nowhere does it note that fact..
I do not believe Residency makes you a citizen..
How many foreigneers are dual citizens and have voting rights in their homelands and here,,,,"" Unacceptable""
GOT that HOMELAND bs
you come here to be an American
That's it...
other wise go HOME..
Reply:would be nice but have found out that some do not have the birth certificates and even now look at the baby's with no names abandoned.
Reply:You mean like the social security card ?....... Dude, they counterfeit them...
Reply:It won't help cause everything can be faked and people who enter the country with visas and then disappear will still manage to blend in cause you won't be randomly asked for your I.D card.
Reply:i'd try anything to get their A**es out of America
Reply:Well, we already have drivers licenses...and that covers the vast majority of the population.
Reply:Only for obtaining a job, but social security cards are already used to obtain a job so illegal aliens are getting jobs from employers who know they are illegal and don't care. A national identity card would be the same thing. The employer who doesn't care and where you don't pay taxes will ignore the national identity card.
What do you think? There will be check points in the street to see if you are a permanent resident or not?
Reply:Yes, that would be the upshot. If you needed to use the card anytime you had to show i.d. for something. Illegals have always been able to get around the laws. I'm sure they would find a way to get around this one, too.
Reply:the world is going to have to stop having children. you can t given food much,ET.
Reply:I totally agree with id cards. only trouble is when they catch illegals they still don't kick them out. id cards and zero tolerance the only way to go.
Reply:National ID will put innocents to jail and put people to holocoust, that means your body parts isnt enough to identify your real identity. And if you forgot your ID or lost it , you are unidentified son of God.
Reply:Yes, we need it it's already here Real ID
"Ron Paul was right. If you ask people from certain countries for a national ID, then you have to ask everyone to carry one. That will be the beginning of Big Brother getting into your
business"
this video give you a good idea of why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0UWdYWLr...
Big Brother is already in our business
• Drive license
• Social security card
• Birth certificate
• Passport
• Military id
• State issues id cards
• Etc… I can go on and on
They can listen to any phone call and look at any email ...
And most of the time this multi-tiered system fails and give the wrong info any way. this communication breakdown is major problem. and now is something that terrorist can count on
If your not hiding anything, why do care if you carry 1 ID or 7 ID's
One ID card would simplefy the goverment make America safer. I like the simple part the best... Oh Yea illgeals would not get them. they will be leaving soon anyway on there on accord.
also you have to have a
• Social security card
• Birth certificate
to get a car tag in most states etc..
We can only fix this with logic, some who understands what Newt is saying in this video link above, we must bring our own ideas and clear thinking to Washington, DC in 2008.This is the only way to protect our future.. I will protect us. Odom 2008 dot com, I will not standby and let another catastrophic event happen. Our very way of life and Our children futures depend on it. We must secure our borders now.. Because it makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left wide open and unlocked.
I stand on the edge of this precipice with a solution, a people’s president. Politics have gotten in the way of national security one to many times.
Vote independent.
I stand on the edge of this precipice with a solution, a people’s president. Politics have gotten in the way of our future.
One of our greatest minds once said.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”
-- Albert Einstein
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." When MacArthur said this, not only was he cutting to the core of a philosophy of government, but he was also giving us a mandate for our lives.
Jerry Odom
2008 Presidential Candidate “independent”
To regain our independence from ineffective way doing things
Info@odom2008.com
www.odom2008.com
Reply:We don't want it. It’s just like the Nazi government. Every where Germans citizen went they had to show papers or some form of identification! Now we are going to have to do the same thing! Now you tell me if this country isn’t getting fascist? Just like Aaron Russo stated: This country is going from freedom to fascism!
Reply:The national ID card is a way for the government to keep track of everything you do and to destroy your civil rights and freedoms. The Government IS out to get you!
Reply:yes we need a way to give a national identication to everyone who is legal but this can't be by a fisical card.
in my opinion I will like to see a system were you put your fingerprint or a code number like a ssn number and this is verified on a small device with an lcd screen that will be available almost everywere like employers, airports, dealers, any kind of bussines that includes a transaction or acces to a place or information. the information will show picture, name, address an security information like a passcode that will be asked to verify if the person is trying to impersonate someone else, the identity is created in a database created by a federal agency with acces for anyone and supervised by federal security information agents.
its just as simple as put your finger here and reverify with the system and not trusting that fisical card.
I knowthis idea sounds too futuristic and needs some interventon on its possible gaps but its better then relaying in a card that can be faked by illegals, criminals or terrorists.
we already have creditcards machines everywere, why not identity machines too? lets relay in somthing we can verify and not just a license driver that its different in every state and nobody knows if its real.
Reply:Yes, ID has a lot of factors that can help in monitoring every citizen in one country both the negative and positive factors? Without ID doesnt mean u r illegal but if u dnt have and it happened that u r legal it shows how irresponsbible citizen u r.
Reply:No, it will be a way to control the movements of the legal citizens since history shows that criminals can use any system while regular people do not. Do not support such issues if you want to remain in a free country.
Reply:In theory, it's an excellent idea. Unfortunately, I don't trust the Federal Government to prevent illegal aliens from obtaining any such National ID Card. The fact that many of our politicians (fed, state %26amp; local) even CONSIDER the idea of giving Driver's Licenses to illegals is a testament to their weakness on the issue.
Reply:are we talking the green tentacled type or others....?
the green tentacled type tend to be polymorphs so they can assume any shape size creed.
You'd need their DNA profile too a bar code or serial number.. er isn't that what the Nazi's did!
And with the gov'm't so lax on details like data protection and identity fraud an losing all our data, think there would be a lot of fake out there don't you
Reply:We absolutely do not need a national ID card. With it, we will have virtually zero percent privacy. Come on, the government have already invaded enough of our lives. The thought of the card is madness. And, if the government really wanted to stop illegal immigration, why don't they secure the damn borders?? And how about stop passing mandates on the states requiring them to give illegals healthcare and such. It's because we have all these mandates that are beneficial to illegal immigrants, that's why it appeals so much to them!
Reply:Our country fails in many areas in which other countries are surging ahead (or at least staying ahead): national health care, quality of education, transportation, quality of life, a planet-friendly infrastructure, pedestrian-friendly neighborhoods, etc., etc.
A national ID card is required in just about every country in the world, and it is long overdue here. Like other countries, we have the technology to make counterfeiting almost impossible (nothing is impossible). Social security numbers can be hacked and stolen. Drivers licenses should not have to serve the double-duty of serving as national ID.
Big Brother is already here, by the way. It is the corporate sector that owns and runs our media, our economy, and our governmental policy-making. Do you really believe that we are better off because large box stores like Wal-Mart can use sales taxes paid to them in their own businesses and they can gain exemptions from personal property taxes? How does an honest small American businessman, who must pay those taxes, even compete?
But I digress. You will read and hear many red herrings about the danger of a national ID card, but a much greater danger lies in allowing private companies, like credit reporting companies, banks, and other businesses, keep and even sell our personal data without our permission.
As (another) aside, I do not think that one of our greatest problems in this country is illegal aliens. If we reform our trade policies to require that any US company manufacturing abroad will meet the same standards it would have to meet in the US (environmental, a non-exploitative wage--no slave wages, no child or prison labor, no long work weeks, no sweat shops, etc., environmental responsibility, and the like), then the economies of those countries will grow phenomenally and their people will not feel forced to leave home, language, culture, and family to face a hostile culture.
Reply:You've answered your own question
Would a national ID card be a way of identifying illegal aliens?
I don't think it would work,
~You are only suppose to get a SSN if you are legal but illegals still get them
~You are only suppose to get a driving license if you are legal but illegals still get them
~You are only suppose to get mortgages etc if you are legal yet illegals manage to get them
~You are only suppose to get social benefits if you are legal/US citizen but illegals still get them
~You are are suppose to be able to open a bank account with a valid SSN, which a illegal does not have but they still open an account
Do you get my point?
There is always a way around the system, and they is always someone who works for that system who is willing is abuse it. Case in point workers at the DMV in my state were arrested and charged, lost their jobs as well for selling driving licenses to illegals in the area.
Reply:i work will a girl who was argueing the right for illegal aliens to have drivers licenses! If someone is here ILLEGALLY well duh that means they souldn't be here at all let alone have legal rights inside our country! i dont think another id card will solve anything! illegal aliens will come here and stay as long as we let them. they get their hands on ssn#s and birth certificates whos to say they wouldnt be able to get a national id card?!?!
Reply:Why go through all the expense. Just raise the standards to acquire a State Drivers License and put a chip in it!
Reply:So we give IDs to the illegals that stole IDs from the citizens%26gt; That makes real since%26gt;So they can be deported????Or stay here%26gt; Smell like amnesty of some sort%26gt;Must be a liberal illegal sellout again%26gt;Even by a Rep%26gt;
Reply:Not necessarily. A lot of people are here on work visa's and such, so you cant just assume that they are here illegal.
Reply:no, anything can be faked.....but it would be a good way to let the gov. track you and spit.....
Reply:They fake drivers licenses and green cards, they would just fake national ID cards too.
I'm all for national security, but I'm not ready to be stopped at say, the Texas Oklahoma boarder, by a jack booted Nazi thug, asking "may I see your papers please?".
I value my freedom, I'll trade a little security for it. For now anyway.
Reply:I'm wary of a national ID card. What exactly would be on it? I doubt it would make a difference when it comes to illegal aliens though. How could it? Unless people had to wear them like badges and then you could see - there is someone who doesn't have one.
Reply:We have national ID....it's your social security number...has it helped any?
Reply:I have a live birth certificate and a California drivers License
that I remember I NEEDED to get it..
but nowhere does it note that fact..
I do not believe Residency makes you a citizen..
How many foreigneers are dual citizens and have voting rights in their homelands and here,,,,"" Unacceptable""
GOT that HOMELAND bs
you come here to be an American
That's it...
other wise go HOME..
Reply:would be nice but have found out that some do not have the birth certificates and even now look at the baby's with no names abandoned.
Reply:You mean like the social security card ?....... Dude, they counterfeit them...
Reply:It won't help cause everything can be faked and people who enter the country with visas and then disappear will still manage to blend in cause you won't be randomly asked for your I.D card.
Reply:i'd try anything to get their A**es out of America
Reply:Well, we already have drivers licenses...and that covers the vast majority of the population.
Reply:Only for obtaining a job, but social security cards are already used to obtain a job so illegal aliens are getting jobs from employers who know they are illegal and don't care. A national identity card would be the same thing. The employer who doesn't care and where you don't pay taxes will ignore the national identity card.
What do you think? There will be check points in the street to see if you are a permanent resident or not?
Reply:Yes, that would be the upshot. If you needed to use the card anytime you had to show i.d. for something. Illegals have always been able to get around the laws. I'm sure they would find a way to get around this one, too.
Reply:the world is going to have to stop having children. you can t given food much,ET.
Reply:I totally agree with id cards. only trouble is when they catch illegals they still don't kick them out. id cards and zero tolerance the only way to go.
Reply:National ID will put innocents to jail and put people to holocoust, that means your body parts isnt enough to identify your real identity. And if you forgot your ID or lost it , you are unidentified son of God.
Reply:Yes, we need it it's already here Real ID
"Ron Paul was right. If you ask people from certain countries for a national ID, then you have to ask everyone to carry one. That will be the beginning of Big Brother getting into your
business"
this video give you a good idea of why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0UWdYWLr...
Big Brother is already in our business
• Drive license
• Social security card
• Birth certificate
• Passport
• Military id
• State issues id cards
• Etc… I can go on and on
They can listen to any phone call and look at any email ...
And most of the time this multi-tiered system fails and give the wrong info any way. this communication breakdown is major problem. and now is something that terrorist can count on
If your not hiding anything, why do care if you carry 1 ID or 7 ID's
One ID card would simplefy the goverment make America safer. I like the simple part the best... Oh Yea illgeals would not get them. they will be leaving soon anyway on there on accord.
also you have to have a
• Social security card
• Birth certificate
to get a car tag in most states etc..
We can only fix this with logic, some who understands what Newt is saying in this video link above, we must bring our own ideas and clear thinking to Washington, DC in 2008.This is the only way to protect our future.. I will protect us. Odom 2008 dot com, I will not standby and let another catastrophic event happen. Our very way of life and Our children futures depend on it. We must secure our borders now.. Because it makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left wide open and unlocked.
I stand on the edge of this precipice with a solution, a people’s president. Politics have gotten in the way of national security one to many times.
Vote independent.
I stand on the edge of this precipice with a solution, a people’s president. Politics have gotten in the way of our future.
One of our greatest minds once said.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”
-- Albert Einstein
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." When MacArthur said this, not only was he cutting to the core of a philosophy of government, but he was also giving us a mandate for our lives.
Jerry Odom
2008 Presidential Candidate “independent”
To regain our independence from ineffective way doing things
Info@odom2008.com
www.odom2008.com
Reply:We don't want it. It’s just like the Nazi government. Every where Germans citizen went they had to show papers or some form of identification! Now we are going to have to do the same thing! Now you tell me if this country isn’t getting fascist? Just like Aaron Russo stated: This country is going from freedom to fascism!
Reply:The national ID card is a way for the government to keep track of everything you do and to destroy your civil rights and freedoms. The Government IS out to get you!
Reply:yes we need a way to give a national identication to everyone who is legal but this can't be by a fisical card.
in my opinion I will like to see a system were you put your fingerprint or a code number like a ssn number and this is verified on a small device with an lcd screen that will be available almost everywere like employers, airports, dealers, any kind of bussines that includes a transaction or acces to a place or information. the information will show picture, name, address an security information like a passcode that will be asked to verify if the person is trying to impersonate someone else, the identity is created in a database created by a federal agency with acces for anyone and supervised by federal security information agents.
its just as simple as put your finger here and reverify with the system and not trusting that fisical card.
I knowthis idea sounds too futuristic and needs some interventon on its possible gaps but its better then relaying in a card that can be faked by illegals, criminals or terrorists.
we already have creditcards machines everywere, why not identity machines too? lets relay in somthing we can verify and not just a license driver that its different in every state and nobody knows if its real.
Reply:Yes, ID has a lot of factors that can help in monitoring every citizen in one country both the negative and positive factors? Without ID doesnt mean u r illegal but if u dnt have and it happened that u r legal it shows how irresponsbible citizen u r.
Reply:No, it will be a way to control the movements of the legal citizens since history shows that criminals can use any system while regular people do not. Do not support such issues if you want to remain in a free country.
Reply:In theory, it's an excellent idea. Unfortunately, I don't trust the Federal Government to prevent illegal aliens from obtaining any such National ID Card. The fact that many of our politicians (fed, state %26amp; local) even CONSIDER the idea of giving Driver's Licenses to illegals is a testament to their weakness on the issue.
Reply:are we talking the green tentacled type or others....?
the green tentacled type tend to be polymorphs so they can assume any shape size creed.
You'd need their DNA profile too a bar code or serial number.. er isn't that what the Nazi's did!
And with the gov'm't so lax on details like data protection and identity fraud an losing all our data, think there would be a lot of fake out there don't you
Reply:We absolutely do not need a national ID card. With it, we will have virtually zero percent privacy. Come on, the government have already invaded enough of our lives. The thought of the card is madness. And, if the government really wanted to stop illegal immigration, why don't they secure the damn borders?? And how about stop passing mandates on the states requiring them to give illegals healthcare and such. It's because we have all these mandates that are beneficial to illegal immigrants, that's why it appeals so much to them!
Reply:Our country fails in many areas in which other countries are surging ahead (or at least staying ahead): national health care, quality of education, transportation, quality of life, a planet-friendly infrastructure, pedestrian-friendly neighborhoods, etc., etc.
A national ID card is required in just about every country in the world, and it is long overdue here. Like other countries, we have the technology to make counterfeiting almost impossible (nothing is impossible). Social security numbers can be hacked and stolen. Drivers licenses should not have to serve the double-duty of serving as national ID.
Big Brother is already here, by the way. It is the corporate sector that owns and runs our media, our economy, and our governmental policy-making. Do you really believe that we are better off because large box stores like Wal-Mart can use sales taxes paid to them in their own businesses and they can gain exemptions from personal property taxes? How does an honest small American businessman, who must pay those taxes, even compete?
But I digress. You will read and hear many red herrings about the danger of a national ID card, but a much greater danger lies in allowing private companies, like credit reporting companies, banks, and other businesses, keep and even sell our personal data without our permission.
As (another) aside, I do not think that one of our greatest problems in this country is illegal aliens. If we reform our trade policies to require that any US company manufacturing abroad will meet the same standards it would have to meet in the US (environmental, a non-exploitative wage--no slave wages, no child or prison labor, no long work weeks, no sweat shops, etc., environmental responsibility, and the like), then the economies of those countries will grow phenomenally and their people will not feel forced to leave home, language, culture, and family to face a hostile culture.
Reply:You've answered your own question
Are you for or against states issuing a separate state ID card or driver's license to illegal aliens?
Proponents of a measure to issue a separate state ID card or driver's license to illegal aliens maintain that this would help bring illegals out of the shadow, and promote driver responsibility. Besides, such an ID card would not permit illegal aliens from seeking employment in this country. When their savings run out, they will have to leave the country. And if the Feds want to find them and deport them, at least the Feds know where those illegals are. Do you agree or disagree?
Are you for or against states issuing a separate state ID card or driver's license to illegal aliens?
I agree. And when they come forward, arrest and deport them.
Reply:I agree. Illegals should not be allowed to drive or work.
Did you know that if an illegal Woman gets pregnant and needs a Dr. that she is eligible for WIC,Food Stamps and Medicaid?
Where if my daughter gets pregnant I have to pay? And I should be Responsible for her, I am just saying.....is this fair????
Reply:nothing for illegals!
Reply:totally agree. they are illegal and that is the law, love it or hate it, it is what it is...
Reply:Just one question. How are we going to get the illegals to agree to this? Why would they come forward to get an ID if the Feds could find them and deport them? O.K. I guess that is two questions.
Reply:Okay, the illegals who cause troubles in America SHOULD go back to their countries and do whatever they want there and never come back to America ever in their life. And for those of hardworking illegals who are here to survive and actually contributing to the Anerican ecomonics should be allowed to stay and be given chances to be part of the society. Hey, once you or your ancestors were immigrants too. The difference was back then there were no terms of legal and illegal.
Reply:If you are here illegally you should not be issued ANYTHING except a one way ticket home which will be billed to your home country! The police force should be increased in size and trained in immigration so that when they pull over a car with expired mexican plates and no insurance the driver and passengers may be detained and DEPORTED!
Reply:disagree. and if you agree, lets give all the other murderers, thieves, rapists an id card too. after all they are all criminals
Reply:i don't think they will just leave because they run out of cash. plus they live 5or8 in one 2 bedroom apartment so they save money. its one big joke and a slap in the face to the American people who do things the right way. give me a get out of jail free card and some free health care like they get and I'll agree
Reply:First most illegals would not sign up for anything that show their status as illegal. And why should they when they have buy all the fake or stolen documents they can need. The feds can not even locate those with criminal violent arrest warrants, what makes you thing they are going to look for those who have broken our laws, but remain in the shadows to the tune of 12-25 million. Most illegal have little or no saving so the chances they will self deport are slim and done.
Reply:I am "for" deportation of illegal aliens.
Reply:Disagree:
- Most illegals will see it as a ploy to get them to come out and register as illegals.
- The tax payer will have to fund a system that will, on face value, benefit those who pay no taxes and are fundamentally criminals.
- Society itself gains no benefit from this and yet it is society that must flip the bill for it.
- It will only lead to further concessions given to illegals, before you know it they will have more 'rights' than legals.
- It will only fuel to polarize the population into two camps, legals vs illegals and their legal supporters. Such polarization is never good for a nation.
The answer to illegal aliens is simple, find them and deport them. Furthermore, prevent them as best as possible from entering the nation in the first place.
That being said, I am not for some large scale sweeping of the nation in search of illegals, that would cost far too much money and would be far too likely to breed corruption.
Reply:We don't need an ID for illegals. That is just the first step in making them legitimate. Sorry, but no Id's for illegals. They want an ID.....come here the legal way.
Reply:i dont mind the aliens because this is not my country ( im black, and jst live in it) but this whole i.d. issuing is rediculus and is pissing me off, but hey thats who you white people voted for.
rain roots
Are you for or against states issuing a separate state ID card or driver's license to illegal aliens?
I agree. And when they come forward, arrest and deport them.
Reply:I agree. Illegals should not be allowed to drive or work.
Did you know that if an illegal Woman gets pregnant and needs a Dr. that she is eligible for WIC,Food Stamps and Medicaid?
Where if my daughter gets pregnant I have to pay? And I should be Responsible for her, I am just saying.....is this fair????
Reply:nothing for illegals!
Reply:totally agree. they are illegal and that is the law, love it or hate it, it is what it is...
Reply:Just one question. How are we going to get the illegals to agree to this? Why would they come forward to get an ID if the Feds could find them and deport them? O.K. I guess that is two questions.
Reply:Okay, the illegals who cause troubles in America SHOULD go back to their countries and do whatever they want there and never come back to America ever in their life. And for those of hardworking illegals who are here to survive and actually contributing to the Anerican ecomonics should be allowed to stay and be given chances to be part of the society. Hey, once you or your ancestors were immigrants too. The difference was back then there were no terms of legal and illegal.
Reply:If you are here illegally you should not be issued ANYTHING except a one way ticket home which will be billed to your home country! The police force should be increased in size and trained in immigration so that when they pull over a car with expired mexican plates and no insurance the driver and passengers may be detained and DEPORTED!
Reply:disagree. and if you agree, lets give all the other murderers, thieves, rapists an id card too. after all they are all criminals
Reply:i don't think they will just leave because they run out of cash. plus they live 5or8 in one 2 bedroom apartment so they save money. its one big joke and a slap in the face to the American people who do things the right way. give me a get out of jail free card and some free health care like they get and I'll agree
Reply:First most illegals would not sign up for anything that show their status as illegal. And why should they when they have buy all the fake or stolen documents they can need. The feds can not even locate those with criminal violent arrest warrants, what makes you thing they are going to look for those who have broken our laws, but remain in the shadows to the tune of 12-25 million. Most illegal have little or no saving so the chances they will self deport are slim and done.
Reply:I am "for" deportation of illegal aliens.
Reply:Disagree:
- Most illegals will see it as a ploy to get them to come out and register as illegals.
- The tax payer will have to fund a system that will, on face value, benefit those who pay no taxes and are fundamentally criminals.
- Society itself gains no benefit from this and yet it is society that must flip the bill for it.
- It will only lead to further concessions given to illegals, before you know it they will have more 'rights' than legals.
- It will only fuel to polarize the population into two camps, legals vs illegals and their legal supporters. Such polarization is never good for a nation.
The answer to illegal aliens is simple, find them and deport them. Furthermore, prevent them as best as possible from entering the nation in the first place.
That being said, I am not for some large scale sweeping of the nation in search of illegals, that would cost far too much money and would be far too likely to breed corruption.
Reply:We don't need an ID for illegals. That is just the first step in making them legitimate. Sorry, but no Id's for illegals. They want an ID.....come here the legal way.
Reply:i dont mind the aliens because this is not my country ( im black, and jst live in it) but this whole i.d. issuing is rediculus and is pissing me off, but hey thats who you white people voted for.
rain roots
National ID cards and your candidate?
“This REAL ID Act establishes a massive, centrally-coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens: at a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical characteristics. The legislation also grants open-ended authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to require biometric information on IDs in the future. This means your harmless looking driver’s license could contain a retina scan, fingerprints, DNA information, or radio frequency technology”
“Read the REAL ID Act, HR 418, for yourself. Its text is available on the Library of Congress website. A careful reading also reveals that states will be required to participate in the “Drivers License Agreement,” which was crafted by DMV lobbyists years ago. This agreement creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that can be shared with Canada and Mexico!”
“One overriding point has been forgotten: Criminals don’t obey laws! As with gun control, national ID cards will only affect law-abiding citizens. Do we really believe a terrorist bent on murder is going to dutifully obtain a federal ID card? Do we believe that people who openly flout our immigration laws will nonetheless respect our ID requirements? Any ID card can be forged; any federal agency or state DMV is susceptible to corruption. Criminals can and will obtain national ID cards, or operate without them. National ID cards will be used to track the law-abiding masses, not criminals”
National ID cards and your candidate?
Ron Paul, he's against national ID cards.
Reply:Ron Paul did not support this legislation. As I recall he was practically alone. And I agree with your analogy with gun control; criminals don't obey laws, they are only useful to keep US under control.
Reply:my candidates might be Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinitch and I haven't checked to see if they support this nazi llegislation. I'm quite sure they don't. BIG BROTHER'S at the front door. This information is none of the govts. or anyone elses business. I believe Bush has had and will have a monstrous impact on peoples thinking by letting them know through the Patriot act that our rights and freedoms are dispensible any time congress and the white House wish. We might ask an even more important question which is how do we put an immediate stop to this horrendos trend. Thank GEorgey the piglover for this little gift which he will, I hope have in his evil legacy. while I'm at it , Screw the No Child left Behind nonsense too. CONGRATULATIONS on thi , most important question jessisbeautiful,
Reply:That sounds like a terrific idea!!! I am all for it, and i think we should require people to have these ID chips implanted in their body so there is no chance the card can be lost and used for identity theft.
Reply:What a horrific idea.
Goerge Orwell here we come!
Reply:We don't need a national id card. A driver's license and a Passport are enough. Stop the National ID card because it will be used for other purposes than id!! Mitt Romney is against the id card, isn't he?
Reply:Has anybody seen Minority Report? Please watch that because that is where America is going. In the movie the only way you could hide or seal your identity was to remove your eyes. The Patriot Act is only a beginning to where this country is trying to go on controlling your personal life. The better and more convenient technology becomes the worse I Freedom becomes. Everybody has a tracking device on them now its call a cell phone!
“Read the REAL ID Act, HR 418, for yourself. Its text is available on the Library of Congress website. A careful reading also reveals that states will be required to participate in the “Drivers License Agreement,” which was crafted by DMV lobbyists years ago. This agreement creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that can be shared with Canada and Mexico!”
“One overriding point has been forgotten: Criminals don’t obey laws! As with gun control, national ID cards will only affect law-abiding citizens. Do we really believe a terrorist bent on murder is going to dutifully obtain a federal ID card? Do we believe that people who openly flout our immigration laws will nonetheless respect our ID requirements? Any ID card can be forged; any federal agency or state DMV is susceptible to corruption. Criminals can and will obtain national ID cards, or operate without them. National ID cards will be used to track the law-abiding masses, not criminals”
National ID cards and your candidate?
Ron Paul, he's against national ID cards.
Reply:Ron Paul did not support this legislation. As I recall he was practically alone. And I agree with your analogy with gun control; criminals don't obey laws, they are only useful to keep US under control.
Reply:my candidates might be Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinitch and I haven't checked to see if they support this nazi llegislation. I'm quite sure they don't. BIG BROTHER'S at the front door. This information is none of the govts. or anyone elses business. I believe Bush has had and will have a monstrous impact on peoples thinking by letting them know through the Patriot act that our rights and freedoms are dispensible any time congress and the white House wish. We might ask an even more important question which is how do we put an immediate stop to this horrendos trend. Thank GEorgey the piglover for this little gift which he will, I hope have in his evil legacy. while I'm at it , Screw the No Child left Behind nonsense too. CONGRATULATIONS on thi , most important question jessisbeautiful,
Reply:That sounds like a terrific idea!!! I am all for it, and i think we should require people to have these ID chips implanted in their body so there is no chance the card can be lost and used for identity theft.
Reply:What a horrific idea.
Goerge Orwell here we come!
Reply:We don't need a national id card. A driver's license and a Passport are enough. Stop the National ID card because it will be used for other purposes than id!! Mitt Romney is against the id card, isn't he?
Reply:Has anybody seen Minority Report? Please watch that because that is where America is going. In the movie the only way you could hide or seal your identity was to remove your eyes. The Patriot Act is only a beginning to where this country is trying to go on controlling your personal life. The better and more convenient technology becomes the worse I Freedom becomes. Everybody has a tracking device on them now its call a cell phone!
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