Monday, May 11, 2009

Id cards, is it time for them and could they have saved time during yesterdays airport fiasco.?

I personally think id cards are a good idea, they cant make anything worse can they?

Id cards, is it time for them and could they have saved time during yesterdays airport fiasco.?
ID cards only help when you know who you are looking for. I don't think it's always known who is going to be a threat to an airline. It would be very easy for someone to slip through the net if you relied completely on ID cards, so I think the same level of checks would have to have been done yesterday.





Also, remember we're talking about an airport, and what does everybody take to an airport? Their passport! So to an extent, everyone had an ID card with them (well, a passport!) during yesterday's "fiasco" as you put it ;)





David
Reply:There has never been an ID card made that hasn't been duplicated by ruthless criminals. Report Abuse

Reply:didnt stop the bombs in madrid
Reply:I D cards can be forged. We need fingerprinting. If you buy a ticket for an airplane ride you give your thumbprint. Security terminals match the ticket's bar-code to the thumbprint. Ticket holders should receive background checks to see if they match any suspected terrorists or have any unusual characteristics in their profile. It would be costly to implement a plan like this, but hey, we can just reduce some of the social program funding and kick the freeloaders out to work. Divert the money to a real cause that the Feds are supposed to take care of-SECURITY OF THE NATION%26gt;
Reply:How are they going to help? What is it going to say - 'Occupation = Terrorist Bomber'





In my opinion it's the governments way of scamming yet more money out of us. We all have to have either an ID card or passport and guess what the passport prices are going up yet again! It will cost me nearly £200 to get passports for my family, I can't even afford to go shopping this week!
Reply:ID cards are too easy to forge.





People just better get used to delays at airports. At least you know when you get on a plane that it won't be used as a weapon.
Reply:ID cards are just small plastic passports. But governments are unwiling to pay to make them forge-proof (just go to Usenet, alt.2600.fake-id and see how kids get fake IDs all the time).





In the USA and Canada, driving licenses are quasi-ID cards. So what?
Reply:What about the frauds? It makes it easier, because criminals will ALWAYS get round the system. And when checks are relaxed to wave people in with their dna on a fake id, we're letting even more 'just anybodies' in; or out.
Reply:ID cards don't change anything.
Reply:They are a knee jerk reaction and would have done nothing to alleviate yesterdays situation.
Reply:why would they have saved time? you still need to show your passport?
Reply:Everyone at the airport already had an ID card. It's called a passport.
Reply:How does i.d. stop people breaking the law? Explain how it works.


Do drivers licenses make the roads 100% safe?





All forms of i.d. can be stolen, duplicated, ignored or worked around if people are determined enough. No system is infallible.


Are you aware that the govt. intends to sell the information on your card to any business that can pay? How is that even legal? Its spamming and junk mail that has been condoned by your govt, using 'confidential' info.


Its not just the i.d. card system that people object to, its the way that the system will be run.


Pray that we don't end up with a fascist govt or coup in the future. Its happened in France and Spain and Germany, don't imagine it can't happen here. Its bad enough having a problem with criminals without also having a problem with your own government.
Reply:Kiss Ya Lips (No I.D.)





I aint no number


I don't need no ID round my neck


So Mr Politician


I got born and named like blood runs red


Cause I I aint no number


Don't require no ID round my neck


So Mr number maker


ID CARDS WON'T STOP NO HIJACKED JET.





Think think of a number


Think of a number one to ten


If five five is your number


Times that five by two to make a ten


Cause I I aint no number


I don't need no ID round my neck


So Mr number maker


ID cards won't stop no hijack jet





So my little girl keep dancing


Kiss Ya lips and love yourself so right


Click Mr number maker


Wants your fingerprints your *** and eye


To stipulate your identification


Got born and raised like blood runs red


Wants to slip a microchip in my lip


Cause loose lips sink ships


Keep it shake ya hips


Keep it kiss ya lips I aint no number


I don't need no ID run my neck


So my little girl keep dancing


ID cards won't stop no hijack jet


So my little girl keep dancing


ID cards won't stop no hijack jet


So my little girl keep dancing


Keep dancing


ID cards won't stop no hijack jet





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Kiss Ya Lips (NO ID) - Ian Brown
Reply:In the US a national ID card is already a requirement - to be implemented by each state by May, 2008. Its called the "Real ID Act".





After that date, noone will be allowed to fly or enter a federal facility without it. The act requires that the card be tied to some form of biometrics, such as a thumb print or retinal scan. It also requires that all states adopt the same card reading device, whether it be bar code, magnetic strip, or possibly RFID.





The US Department of Homeland Security has been authorized to assign the card for whatever purposes it deems most suitable. Once the standardized reading method is agreed upon, it could also be used as a health card, a banking card, or for use by whatever businesses or organizations lobby to have it linked to their database to meet their identification needs.





Currently, in addition to giving the bearer permission to fly and access federal property, it will also contain social security ID, driving records, and criminal records (domestic law enforcement is currently working to link their databases to a central system).





The card was recommended by the 9/11 Commission as a means to prevent future terror attacks. But in reality, 99.9999% of the time the card won't be monitoring terrorists. It will spend the vast majority of it's time monitoring YOU.
Reply:We already have ID cards in the form of National Insurance numbers, so really what it comes down to is what kind of information is going to be stored on it and who will be able to read this information.





Government use only doesnt really apply anymore since they sold the DVLA list on to a private company!


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