Monday, May 11, 2009

Should the information collected on ID cards be limited as suggested by MPs?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...





I wonder why we need something that is going to do nothing but fit into our wallets whilst costing us money.


Views ta very much.

Should the information collected on ID cards be limited as suggested by MPs?
I totally oppose ID cards anyway, it's a slippery slope we're facing, what does the future hold, gulag camps in the UK ? In all my considerable years I have never had such reservations about the direction Britain is heading, though I'm consoled by the knowledge that Labour is unlikely to be returned for a fourth term.....control and profit are what ID cards are about it's time we started to care about what really matters here and it's not the state of Amy Winehouse or Gazza that's for sure.
Reply:Limited? the whole idea should be scrapped along with this incompetent government. The only reason for the ID cards is so that this bunch of dictatorial prats and the EU dictators can have a total control of the UK population.





ID cards are used by totalitarian regimes to control the ordinary people as they do nothing to stop criminal activity or terrorism, in fact terrorism will probably increase with the general objecting to this interference in peoples privacy.





The MP's have only brought this up because at present all Labour MP's are going to be at risk at the next General Election and they are trying to make their position safer. If this government gets in again all your freedoms will vanish, welcome to 1984 and all that goes with that.
Reply:On the surface, it's a good idea. Government agencies would know who is in the country and who has or has not the right to be here. Who is claiming benefits they are not entitled to. Who is not paying their fair share if tax, and so on.


If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.





The reality however is very different. Such a mammoth task by the Government (any Government) would lead to chaos.


Mistakes would be made resulting in people loosing their rights.


Data would be lost, as we know from experience.


Criminal gangs would make a fortune producing fraudulent ID cards and s on.





So to answer your question. If we must have ID cards, yes the information should very limited indeed.
Reply:No^n for ID cards. My experience with record keeping and govt agencies is a shambles of incompetence and inefficiency. Judging by recent debacles involving the loss of confidential details of millions of citizens, all it would do is to put all the information about our private affairs into one location, thus making it easier for hackers and scammers to locate,exploit and abuse the information for their own ends. There is also the distant but credible threat of a future draconian government using the ID system to oppress and exploit its citizens. For example in Zimbabwe, Mugabe has demanded people surrender their ID cards in order to receive food- thus rendering them incapable of voting (against him)
Reply:It would seem a little backward if in this day and age any government would not be able to account for its citizens, by knowing something about them, like who they are (name)


where they live, what they look like(photo), blood group (in case of emergency).


But lets "avoid creating a surveillance society, a group of MPs have warned." This statement in a society with more CCTV and other tracking devices than any other. What are they talking about?


When my Granny took a photo of me with part of Canary Wharf in the background while on holiday in the UK, two special constables very politely asked for our particulars and spent about ten minutes of their valuable time taking down details. Their job was made easier because we handed them our Singapore Identity cards, which contained


all they wished to know.


Our IC cards cost very little and help greatly in any number of ways like medical records being accessed minutes after admission to Emergency etc.


Eliminates the innocent from the dangerous fast.
Reply:The government are incopmetent fools who shouldnt be messing around with technology and ID...have they not messed up enough already. We managed for hundreds of years without bar-code, eye-scan, identification cards. They can only be a bad thing, especially in the hands of those in "power"





Sounds like it's gonna be a Tax on being alive...f**k 'em
Reply:I am opposed to the whole I.D. card plan. As you so rightly pointed out, it is another way of taking money from us for something that the majority neither want nor need.


Government agencies have repeatedly proved themselves unable to be trusted with our personal information.


The information that is required is already available on my passport, I see no need for any duplication.


As for suggestions, from those who are promoting the plans, that it would help prevent terrorist acts, that is a complete nonsense!
Reply:yes it should be limited - limited to NOTHING





what happens when they make your ID card obsolete and say "the only way you can operate in society is with a RFID chip implanted under your skin" ?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID#Human_...





http://www.nowpublic.com/politics/prison...





http://www.verichipcorp.com/
Reply:How long until they lose all our information and everyone's id gets stolen. ID Cards will not help with terrorism or crime or anything. South Africa has had id cards since the 1970s and they have the worse crime levels globally!
Reply:I suggest the information should be as follows:





Name


Nickname


Eye Colour


Star Sign


Fav Female Celebrity


Fav Male Celebrity


Fav Pop Group


Fav Film


First Snog


Fav Revel Flavour
Reply:Giving children information of our identities is ludicrous.....They need to learn the basic fundamentals of security first.....
Reply:London Metropolitan Police
Reply:An incoming Conservative government has pledged that they will scrap this scheme. Labour are just wasting money trying to bring it in.
Reply:Yes it should be.


But whatever the MP's say the opposite will happen.
Reply:I do not agree with I.D. cards.
Reply:I totally, totally agree with Stu T.


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