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Saturday, November 19, 2011
Who needs ID cards; call to add young to DNA database...whether they like it or not. Anyone remember SUS law?
Gary Pugh, who is due to become Acpo's spokesman on DNA, told the Observer that not enough of the "right people" were being sampled. Thirty years ago, anyone under the age of 25 who experienced the Orwellian actions of authority would have done something about it (at whatever degree). Will the same young folk express their feelings in the same way today?
Who needs ID cards; call to add young to DNA database...whether they like it or not. Anyone remember SUS law?
The UK is a nation of individuals with no central organisation to voice their objections.
30 years ago there were the trade unions who, rightly or wrongly, were the voice of the workers. They were decimated by Thatcher who viewed the Unions as a threat to her way of life. Since that time the people of this country have had no means of raising objections to any legislation passed by any party in power.
We have become an extremely divided and conquered nation. Until such time as an individual or group steps forward that the people are willing to follow we shall remain so. Until that time we will remain at the mercy of those who hold the reins of power.
Reply:No they won't because they've been drinking flouridated water all their lives, so they don't have the ability to fight back. The fight was destroyed by the flouride.
Anyone who still has the ability to resist needs to. Resist to the end.
Reply:Who needs ID cards:
Everyone should have one it would save the police a lot of time.
DNA database:
Why not have you something to hide, it would offer a level of protection not yet seen anywhere.
Reply:This is BS.
All that needs to be said.
You want to prove my guilt, investigate me, not put my dna in a slot machine.
Reply:This world is as much mine as anyone else's and it is my life.
If I choose to have an ID Card or my DNA taken, then I will.
But as I don't and do not agree with it, then I won't.
I am sick of big brother telling me what to do, especially when I know he is wrong.
The name 'Adolf Hitler' comes to mind, ...and 'Nazi regime' when I hear politicians taking away our rights, or forcing things upon us, ...and I am obviously not alone with these thoughts.
They will be tattooing bar codes on our arms next or, even worse, ...planting micro chips in our babies heads when they are born, ...with an explosive charge, so that, when they are older, they can get rid of them if they don't pay their Community Charge or, if you are reaching retirement age, ...they could blow your head off and then keep your pension money so that they can buy another mansion or gas guzzler Lexus or Jaguar for themselves.
Good Question, ...but what is the true answer?
Reply:Thatcher's children? They won't do anything! Greed and selfishness are considered virtues now, it's ***** everyone else.
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Who needs ID cards; call to add young to DNA database...whether they like it or not. Anyone remember SUS law?
The UK is a nation of individuals with no central organisation to voice their objections.
30 years ago there were the trade unions who, rightly or wrongly, were the voice of the workers. They were decimated by Thatcher who viewed the Unions as a threat to her way of life. Since that time the people of this country have had no means of raising objections to any legislation passed by any party in power.
We have become an extremely divided and conquered nation. Until such time as an individual or group steps forward that the people are willing to follow we shall remain so. Until that time we will remain at the mercy of those who hold the reins of power.
Reply:No they won't because they've been drinking flouridated water all their lives, so they don't have the ability to fight back. The fight was destroyed by the flouride.
Anyone who still has the ability to resist needs to. Resist to the end.
Reply:Who needs ID cards:
Everyone should have one it would save the police a lot of time.
DNA database:
Why not have you something to hide, it would offer a level of protection not yet seen anywhere.
Reply:This is BS.
All that needs to be said.
You want to prove my guilt, investigate me, not put my dna in a slot machine.
Reply:This world is as much mine as anyone else's and it is my life.
If I choose to have an ID Card or my DNA taken, then I will.
But as I don't and do not agree with it, then I won't.
I am sick of big brother telling me what to do, especially when I know he is wrong.
The name 'Adolf Hitler' comes to mind, ...and 'Nazi regime' when I hear politicians taking away our rights, or forcing things upon us, ...and I am obviously not alone with these thoughts.
They will be tattooing bar codes on our arms next or, even worse, ...planting micro chips in our babies heads when they are born, ...with an explosive charge, so that, when they are older, they can get rid of them if they don't pay their Community Charge or, if you are reaching retirement age, ...they could blow your head off and then keep your pension money so that they can buy another mansion or gas guzzler Lexus or Jaguar for themselves.
Good Question, ...but what is the true answer?
Reply:Thatcher's children? They won't do anything! Greed and selfishness are considered virtues now, it's ***** everyone else.
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Do you agree or disagree with the supposedly new ID cards?
The new ID cards they have been suggesting we carry or do you think another solution would be better? Say, like for the future the beginning of DNA testing from birth so this way people can be identified? (Although we need a solution at present)
Do you agree or disagree with the supposedly new ID cards?
The arguments put forward in favour of ID cards are largely a blind. There's little or no reason to believe that these would have a significant impact in fighting terrorism or dealing with illegal immigration and benefit fraud. I've been involved in this kind of area and there is no document that cannot be forged, given the will, money and technology. Terrorists and criminals running major fraud operations are the very people with the will and means to do this. And so they will. Sure ID cards might have an impact on, say, your more opportunist benefit fraud but to nothing like the extent necessary to justify such enormous expense. And don't for a moment believe that even the several billion pound cost presently projected won't rise to a still more astronomical number - this invariably happens with government IT contracts.
So ID cards will be hugely expensive and of marginal value in fighting serious organised crime. Exactly what does justify the cost ? It's all speculation really but best bet is probably a national database, storing large amounts of data for each of us. Does sound very 'big brother' I know but then we've now reached the point where chips in bins to check we're disposing of rubbish correctly are becoming a reality - bets are off, I'd say.
The interesting thing about a national database is what would be included ? Name, address, date of birth, place of birth, blood group, driver or not - maybe. But how about criminal record, relationship history, medical history, sexual orientation, employment, income ? How about more commercial information, useful to the private sector. If that sounds ridiculous just think about the ever growing amount of private sector involvement in the public services - cleaning hospitals badly, running prisons for profit. This might be alarmist and wrong but, think about it, what else justifies the cost ?
Reply:It is none of the government's business what I do, what I think, what I eat, drink, where I go, who I meet, what I think about them and anything else. HANDS OFF ME.
Reply:You can avoid the new ID card by simply buying a UK passport. If you do this in 2007, you will not have to buy the ID card until 2017.
Reply:I like the new ID cards.
Reply:They will have to take my DNA sample by force.
I didn't like the retinal and fingerprint scans put on my driver's license as it it.
Big Brother and the Anti-Christ are in league with one another!
Best Wishes,
Sue
Reply:How do you know what the information collected is to be used for? In future how do you know that criminals won't be convicted by a computer alone matching the D.N.A found at a scene of crime (D.N.A evidence is not infallible). The absolute bottom line is that I will not have one of these cards. History shows that what you are told by a politician is only ever half the story of what is intended and while i have nothing to hide I do fear what the future holds in a country where the authorities hold data of what literally makes up you.
We need to remember that this is the digital age, if ID cards are going to solve all crime overnight and make the UK safe from terrrorists then I am the president of the U.S.A. Anthing that can be made or produced can be forged and at the end of the day what will stop a determined hacker from changing details of DNA online (the database would have to be online in some form or another to allow the various police forces and authorities to access it when required)
Why did we even bother fighting world war II when we have a government who has forgotten what freedom is.
Hitler would be proud.
Reply:I say you must have one if you arent British born.
Reply:I do not agree with having identity cards for Genuine UK citizens and its the Government that is making us have them due to the problems they have caused by letting so many illegal immigrants entering our country.
I think it is very wrong that we have to prove that we are British,instead,all those people who were not born in the UK should have to have them,and if they do not have one,they should be deported as soon as possible.
On the subject of DNA,I do agree that everyone should give a sample in order to set up a national data base,this will help with crime detection and.identification in cases of dead people found without I.D on them.
Reply:They are a Very good idea. If you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear.
Reply:i Agree. ID cards are great but with DNA i do not agree
Reply:I have still have mine from when I was a child.They were issued in the second World War and believe were renewed until the early years of the 1960's.So it is not new.What is new concerns what the cards can now have on them.I believe your name address,your position as a Uk Citizen,blood group if you wish it to be available and Religion if you wish it to be known.If the information is incorrect it should be a criminal offence with serious consequences.There should be no charge.
Reply:first it will be id cards then it will chips inside our body . we are all ready living in a police state cameras every place you go . why do you think the government subsidised phone company's so we can all have Mobil phones . once the phone was registered they can tell exactly where we are going and where we have been . i see in some of the answers people are not seeing the big picture they say if you do nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear . as citizens we are all powerless already against the will of the government we pay taxes and they waste our money we have to have charity events to keep children's wards at hospitals open we have thousands living in poverty .but they go and give our money to crazy dictators so they can buy weapons to kill and torture innocent people they lied to us and tricked us in to going to war and now our solders are dying every day what power do we have to stop them NOTHING at all . ID cars are just another way of control the population . everyday we loose more and more of our freedom soon you will not be able to criticise the government in anyway . just remember what happened to Dr Kelly he was just telling the truth . soon it will be us .
Reply:new id cards are OK they need to be secure we need competent people with integrity to issue oversee and scrutinize all new issued current
citizens will have to be verified along the way
and a database with finger print and retina verification for cards
Reply:ID cards are a huge invasion of privacy. To the people that say they have nothing to fear if you're doing nothing wrong, you're wrong about that. People, wake up. The World Government is getting closer. The naivete of the human race is astounding. Do a search on The Skull %26amp; Bones club at Yale University. It will open your eyes. And the idea of DNA testing from birth is horrible.
Reply:No. I disagree.
Reply:It assumes everyone is guilty until they can prove themselves innocent. If someone asks for my identification it basically means "I don't trust you enough not to lie about who you are". The whole thing is demeaning and beneath contempt.
Reply:well... I don't mind the idea overall... as long as they don't get too carried away with it...
I don't want a government that throws people in jail because they left their card at home... that's not what America was meant to be... that's exactly why America was created... to do something different than that...
Reply:Nooooooo: Big Brother coming true
Reply:The terrorist thing is being pushed here to make people afraid of each other. A theory has been put forth that the U.S. govt. is behind the 9/11 attacks.
What are the new ID cards supposed to do that your drivers license doesn't do?
Its all to help bring in the world government as soon as the Constitution can be dismantled and that is being done now.
Reply:This is another government smoke screen to further control the masses.
It is not the average guy in the street they should fear, but the reaction to thier political actions by those people affected or killed.
I am adamantly against the invasion of my privacy any further.
Who has or will obtain access to such information???
The goverment can't even keep their own secrets without leaks to the press.
We are becoming (or have become) a police state.
Reply:No I don't agree with them its not even tried and tested yet like any product they develop for the market, I think the problems that will arise with this are clear and easy, fraud, and it will cost alot and taxpayers won't want to pay for something that it is costing their wages more so why people want to spend more money, on something thats costing them more and more year round.
I think the only thing that the people want is to strive to have new ideas but its just another government advertising campaign to generate more of an income for the current government legislations and the provisions of providing electronic id isn't going to develop until the twenty 1st century.
Reply:I don't have a problem with it because I'm not up to bad stuff, we do need ID that is as hard as possible to forge or fake.
Do you agree or disagree with the supposedly new ID cards?
The arguments put forward in favour of ID cards are largely a blind. There's little or no reason to believe that these would have a significant impact in fighting terrorism or dealing with illegal immigration and benefit fraud. I've been involved in this kind of area and there is no document that cannot be forged, given the will, money and technology. Terrorists and criminals running major fraud operations are the very people with the will and means to do this. And so they will. Sure ID cards might have an impact on, say, your more opportunist benefit fraud but to nothing like the extent necessary to justify such enormous expense. And don't for a moment believe that even the several billion pound cost presently projected won't rise to a still more astronomical number - this invariably happens with government IT contracts.
So ID cards will be hugely expensive and of marginal value in fighting serious organised crime. Exactly what does justify the cost ? It's all speculation really but best bet is probably a national database, storing large amounts of data for each of us. Does sound very 'big brother' I know but then we've now reached the point where chips in bins to check we're disposing of rubbish correctly are becoming a reality - bets are off, I'd say.
The interesting thing about a national database is what would be included ? Name, address, date of birth, place of birth, blood group, driver or not - maybe. But how about criminal record, relationship history, medical history, sexual orientation, employment, income ? How about more commercial information, useful to the private sector. If that sounds ridiculous just think about the ever growing amount of private sector involvement in the public services - cleaning hospitals badly, running prisons for profit. This might be alarmist and wrong but, think about it, what else justifies the cost ?
Reply:It is none of the government's business what I do, what I think, what I eat, drink, where I go, who I meet, what I think about them and anything else. HANDS OFF ME.
Reply:You can avoid the new ID card by simply buying a UK passport. If you do this in 2007, you will not have to buy the ID card until 2017.
Reply:I like the new ID cards.
Reply:They will have to take my DNA sample by force.
I didn't like the retinal and fingerprint scans put on my driver's license as it it.
Big Brother and the Anti-Christ are in league with one another!
Best Wishes,
Sue
Reply:How do you know what the information collected is to be used for? In future how do you know that criminals won't be convicted by a computer alone matching the D.N.A found at a scene of crime (D.N.A evidence is not infallible). The absolute bottom line is that I will not have one of these cards. History shows that what you are told by a politician is only ever half the story of what is intended and while i have nothing to hide I do fear what the future holds in a country where the authorities hold data of what literally makes up you.
We need to remember that this is the digital age, if ID cards are going to solve all crime overnight and make the UK safe from terrrorists then I am the president of the U.S.A. Anthing that can be made or produced can be forged and at the end of the day what will stop a determined hacker from changing details of DNA online (the database would have to be online in some form or another to allow the various police forces and authorities to access it when required)
Why did we even bother fighting world war II when we have a government who has forgotten what freedom is.
Hitler would be proud.
Reply:I say you must have one if you arent British born.
Reply:I do not agree with having identity cards for Genuine UK citizens and its the Government that is making us have them due to the problems they have caused by letting so many illegal immigrants entering our country.
I think it is very wrong that we have to prove that we are British,instead,all those people who were not born in the UK should have to have them,and if they do not have one,they should be deported as soon as possible.
On the subject of DNA,I do agree that everyone should give a sample in order to set up a national data base,this will help with crime detection and.identification in cases of dead people found without I.D on them.
Reply:They are a Very good idea. If you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear.
Reply:i Agree. ID cards are great but with DNA i do not agree
Reply:I have still have mine from when I was a child.They were issued in the second World War and believe were renewed until the early years of the 1960's.So it is not new.What is new concerns what the cards can now have on them.I believe your name address,your position as a Uk Citizen,blood group if you wish it to be available and Religion if you wish it to be known.If the information is incorrect it should be a criminal offence with serious consequences.There should be no charge.
Reply:first it will be id cards then it will chips inside our body . we are all ready living in a police state cameras every place you go . why do you think the government subsidised phone company's so we can all have Mobil phones . once the phone was registered they can tell exactly where we are going and where we have been . i see in some of the answers people are not seeing the big picture they say if you do nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear . as citizens we are all powerless already against the will of the government we pay taxes and they waste our money we have to have charity events to keep children's wards at hospitals open we have thousands living in poverty .but they go and give our money to crazy dictators so they can buy weapons to kill and torture innocent people they lied to us and tricked us in to going to war and now our solders are dying every day what power do we have to stop them NOTHING at all . ID cars are just another way of control the population . everyday we loose more and more of our freedom soon you will not be able to criticise the government in anyway . just remember what happened to Dr Kelly he was just telling the truth . soon it will be us .
Reply:new id cards are OK they need to be secure we need competent people with integrity to issue oversee and scrutinize all new issued current
citizens will have to be verified along the way
and a database with finger print and retina verification for cards
Reply:ID cards are a huge invasion of privacy. To the people that say they have nothing to fear if you're doing nothing wrong, you're wrong about that. People, wake up. The World Government is getting closer. The naivete of the human race is astounding. Do a search on The Skull %26amp; Bones club at Yale University. It will open your eyes. And the idea of DNA testing from birth is horrible.
Reply:No. I disagree.
Reply:It assumes everyone is guilty until they can prove themselves innocent. If someone asks for my identification it basically means "I don't trust you enough not to lie about who you are". The whole thing is demeaning and beneath contempt.
Reply:well... I don't mind the idea overall... as long as they don't get too carried away with it...
I don't want a government that throws people in jail because they left their card at home... that's not what America was meant to be... that's exactly why America was created... to do something different than that...
Reply:Nooooooo: Big Brother coming true
Reply:The terrorist thing is being pushed here to make people afraid of each other. A theory has been put forth that the U.S. govt. is behind the 9/11 attacks.
What are the new ID cards supposed to do that your drivers license doesn't do?
Its all to help bring in the world government as soon as the Constitution can be dismantled and that is being done now.
Reply:This is another government smoke screen to further control the masses.
It is not the average guy in the street they should fear, but the reaction to thier political actions by those people affected or killed.
I am adamantly against the invasion of my privacy any further.
Who has or will obtain access to such information???
The goverment can't even keep their own secrets without leaks to the press.
We are becoming (or have become) a police state.
Reply:No I don't agree with them its not even tried and tested yet like any product they develop for the market, I think the problems that will arise with this are clear and easy, fraud, and it will cost alot and taxpayers won't want to pay for something that it is costing their wages more so why people want to spend more money, on something thats costing them more and more year round.
I think the only thing that the people want is to strive to have new ideas but its just another government advertising campaign to generate more of an income for the current government legislations and the provisions of providing electronic id isn't going to develop until the twenty 1st century.
Reply:I don't have a problem with it because I'm not up to bad stuff, we do need ID that is as hard as possible to forge or fake.
Why are they replacing driver license in America to national id cards you have to scan your finger to get it?
next they are going to shove a camera up our as.......
More personal liberty being stripped away.
Very unconstitutional
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Why are they replacing driver license in America to national id cards you have to scan your finger to get it?
Good grief!! If you are honest and law abiding, you should have nothing to worry about.
Reply:positive id.then the dead cant vote or felons or illegal immigrants.you know,the people who democrats count on to vote.
Reply:but what stops an illegal from getting one, and how do we know we wont stop americans from getting one.
So our government lets in too many illegals, leaves the borders unsecured and then comes back and tells us that the solution is to force american citizens to go through more than they should have to to get a drivers license. All that while still doing nothing about stopping illegals from coming in. Hmmmmmmm?!!
Reply:So big brother knows where you are and what you're doing.
Reply:because our country let in way too many illegals!!! if your blonde and blue, etc.etc. why would you even need one?? and speak english, more money, always, for something else, that the tax payers have to shell out for!!! sickning!!
Reply:for my safety
Reply:The government is just taking another step to having complete control over its people. its scary, everyone should protest it. it doesn't matter if you are a law abiding citizen or not, your personal liberty is in jeopardy.
Reply:to tighten down on security. I agree with it.
Reply:terrorism
Reply:Its about time.
Reply:I haven't heard about a national ID card. But we've needed one for a long long time.
Incidently, the Social Security Act expressly prohibits the SS Card from being used as an ID card of any kind because of fear it would become a "national ID", which the Congress and FDR absolutely didn't want back in 1933.
More personal liberty being stripped away.
Very unconstitutional
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-f...
Why are they replacing driver license in America to national id cards you have to scan your finger to get it?
Good grief!! If you are honest and law abiding, you should have nothing to worry about.
Reply:positive id.then the dead cant vote or felons or illegal immigrants.you know,the people who democrats count on to vote.
Reply:but what stops an illegal from getting one, and how do we know we wont stop americans from getting one.
So our government lets in too many illegals, leaves the borders unsecured and then comes back and tells us that the solution is to force american citizens to go through more than they should have to to get a drivers license. All that while still doing nothing about stopping illegals from coming in. Hmmmmmmm?!!
Reply:So big brother knows where you are and what you're doing.
Reply:because our country let in way too many illegals!!! if your blonde and blue, etc.etc. why would you even need one?? and speak english, more money, always, for something else, that the tax payers have to shell out for!!! sickning!!
Reply:for my safety
Reply:The government is just taking another step to having complete control over its people. its scary, everyone should protest it. it doesn't matter if you are a law abiding citizen or not, your personal liberty is in jeopardy.
Reply:to tighten down on security. I agree with it.
Reply:terrorism
Reply:Its about time.
Reply:I haven't heard about a national ID card. But we've needed one for a long long time.
Incidently, the Social Security Act expressly prohibits the SS Card from being used as an ID card of any kind because of fear it would become a "national ID", which the Congress and FDR absolutely didn't want back in 1933.
Where can you get ID cards?
My 18th birthday is coming up and I wonderd where I could get an ID card from in the uk. I dont drive so cant use a drivers licence. Does anyone know?
Where can you get ID cards?
The motor vehicles dept can issue you an ID card, even if you don't drive.
Where can you get ID cards?
The motor vehicles dept can issue you an ID card, even if you don't drive.
Is there an ID card available for international travelers with prosthetic devices?
I am going to do some international travel this summer. I know there is an ID card available for people with pacemakers, etc to help them more easily get through security checkpoints. Is such a card available for people with prosthetic devices, such as legs which may normally be covered by pants?
Is there an ID card available for international travelers with prosthetic devices?
as far as I know there is no card. I just tell people at the security gate that I wear an artificial leg. One woman I know carries her disabled parking permit with her and a note from the doctor. And I know another woman with multiple health issues has it included in her medical alert bracelet.
I haven't had any real issues flying. I was told they can't tell you to take off your prosthetic and so far I've never so much as been asked. They ask to pat down the leg but always get a woman and never make a big deal of things.
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Is there an ID card available for international travelers with prosthetic devices?
as far as I know there is no card. I just tell people at the security gate that I wear an artificial leg. One woman I know carries her disabled parking permit with her and a note from the doctor. And I know another woman with multiple health issues has it included in her medical alert bracelet.
I haven't had any real issues flying. I was told they can't tell you to take off your prosthetic and so far I've never so much as been asked. They ask to pat down the leg but always get a woman and never make a big deal of things.
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National ID Cards in the UK?
-k- I'm just trying to understand all the furor behind these... I'm not implying that I support them or anything, just trying to get it clear. What makes national ID cards so terrible when we have social security numbers, drivers licenses, etc. I mean, the government already has us assigned to numbers so why all the uproar now?
National ID Cards in the UK?
for one thing, national id cards have been tied to almost every instance of genocide in modern history ... im not sure about the UK, but in the US they will be giving us chipped cards in 2008 and most likely there will be a centralized data base ... most likely in the future you will be required to scan ur card for every transaction, maybe even to get online, and probably anywhere you travel ... in the US the rules have been left up to homeland security ...i think the opportunity for abuse of the system and opression of the people and rights is very high and it is dangerous to have a system like that...
Reply:Why not ? Takes ppl's minds away from the real issues.
Reply:It's about the RFID tracking chips and the assignment of various forms of usage tax liability for the individual products that have the tracking chips. Cash will be able to be tracked from one person to another through these chip IDs and any manner of taxation can be created and enforced...a BAD precedent.
Reply:Largely because we already have so many numbers assigned to us. While if I thought that the ID cards would simplify matters I would support them, instead I suspect it will end up as another piece of plastic in my wallet. Another database with my name, and another billion quid wasted by the government.
National ID Cards in the UK?
for one thing, national id cards have been tied to almost every instance of genocide in modern history ... im not sure about the UK, but in the US they will be giving us chipped cards in 2008 and most likely there will be a centralized data base ... most likely in the future you will be required to scan ur card for every transaction, maybe even to get online, and probably anywhere you travel ... in the US the rules have been left up to homeland security ...i think the opportunity for abuse of the system and opression of the people and rights is very high and it is dangerous to have a system like that...
Reply:Why not ? Takes ppl's minds away from the real issues.
Reply:It's about the RFID tracking chips and the assignment of various forms of usage tax liability for the individual products that have the tracking chips. Cash will be able to be tracked from one person to another through these chip IDs and any manner of taxation can be created and enforced...a BAD precedent.
Reply:Largely because we already have so many numbers assigned to us. While if I thought that the ID cards would simplify matters I would support them, instead I suspect it will end up as another piece of plastic in my wallet. Another database with my name, and another billion quid wasted by the government.
Why aren't Social Security cards laminated and signed like driver's licenses and ID cards?
It would be easier to prevent identity theft if Social Security cards had thumb prints and photo IDs on them (and laminated, too). Someone from the Social Security office would then be able to tell an identity thief from the real person.
If an identity thief got ahold of a regular SS card, he/she can do anything with that number on the card.
So why aren't SS cards treated like driver's licenses and IDs?
Why aren't Social Security cards laminated and signed like driver's licenses and ID cards?
Social Security numbers are only suppose to be used for identification by people who will be paying social security taxes into your social security account. It was never intended to be a national ID used by credit cards, mortgage companies or anyone else.
In fact, it is against federal law to do so. Despite that, everyone does it. That is why every company who uses a social security number as an ID bears full responsibility for security problems and identity theft when an SSN is used.
Reply:Its actually illegal to laminate your SS card. I'm not sure why. I think that its easier to see / verify the signature if the card is not laminated.
It probably is also because they are easily destructable and very difficult to replace if you are not the true owner.
Reply:...because Democrats don't want their future (and current) voting base of illegal immigrants to have a more difficult time making fake SS cards.
If an identity thief got ahold of a regular SS card, he/she can do anything with that number on the card.
So why aren't SS cards treated like driver's licenses and IDs?
Why aren't Social Security cards laminated and signed like driver's licenses and ID cards?
Social Security numbers are only suppose to be used for identification by people who will be paying social security taxes into your social security account. It was never intended to be a national ID used by credit cards, mortgage companies or anyone else.
In fact, it is against federal law to do so. Despite that, everyone does it. That is why every company who uses a social security number as an ID bears full responsibility for security problems and identity theft when an SSN is used.
Reply:Its actually illegal to laminate your SS card. I'm not sure why. I think that its easier to see / verify the signature if the card is not laminated.
It probably is also because they are easily destructable and very difficult to replace if you are not the true owner.
Reply:...because Democrats don't want their future (and current) voting base of illegal immigrants to have a more difficult time making fake SS cards.
You see, this is why we need ID cards?
In another victory for Hindu sensibility, the government cracked down on the rustling of "sacred" cattle in August by issuing ID cards with photos of individual cows, to help guards at the Bangladesh border halt the illegal trade. [BBC News, 8-30-07]
You see, this is why we need ID cards?
cant we chip all immigrants into this country.put a chip in there head,that records when they entered,and more importantly,when they are supposed to go,and when the time expires,remote detonate,hey even if their was a few hmm hmm "accidental"detonations would it matter!
Reply:Yes - they always test run these ideas on animals first - we'll be in the cattle trucks soon under New Labour.
Reply:what.???????????????????
Reply:they all look the same
Reply:Why did they not micro chip them instead. ? I am sure individual cows are known by their owners but they all look pretty much the same to most of us. Wow what a huge data base they must have needed!
Reply:Holy Cow
Reply:Well...speaking about Yahoo Answers I'd say that Shambo would have to renew their passport to travel?
Reply:Trust those idiots with my personal details when they can't even look after a CD, do me a favour.
They might just be fit to hold the identities of cows. They can't have child benefit fraud committed against them. But looking at my ex-girlfriend........I dunno!
Reply:They ought to introduce DEFRA to India!
You see, this is why we need ID cards?
cant we chip all immigrants into this country.put a chip in there head,that records when they entered,and more importantly,when they are supposed to go,and when the time expires,remote detonate,hey even if their was a few hmm hmm "accidental"detonations would it matter!
Reply:Yes - they always test run these ideas on animals first - we'll be in the cattle trucks soon under New Labour.
Reply:what.???????????????????
Reply:they all look the same
Reply:Why did they not micro chip them instead. ? I am sure individual cows are known by their owners but they all look pretty much the same to most of us. Wow what a huge data base they must have needed!
Reply:Holy Cow
Reply:Well...speaking about Yahoo Answers I'd say that Shambo would have to renew their passport to travel?
Reply:Trust those idiots with my personal details when they can't even look after a CD, do me a favour.
They might just be fit to hold the identities of cows. They can't have child benefit fraud committed against them. But looking at my ex-girlfriend........I dunno!
Reply:They ought to introduce DEFRA to India!
Do you support government efforts to implement national ID cards+internal armed checkpoints like Nazi Germany?
Why or why not?
Do you support government efforts to implement national ID cards+internal armed checkpoints like Nazi Germany?
We already have the checkpoints for commercial vehicles, so what!
Reply:if bush wants it im against it
Reply:National ID I don't really haqve a huge problem with,why is that any worse than a drivers license or social security card. In fact it might be nice to have an ID that replaced both,and had enough info to make it extremely hard to counterfeit,which would in turn help with Illegal Immigration.
As for armed checkpoints,I have heard no talk of that,sounds a little paranoid to me. In fact the only state I know of that has checkpoints to enter is also the most Liberal state in America,California.
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Reply:Of course not. If we allow this to happen it is ourselves who are to blame.
Reply:You elected him, You can't complain that you never want 9-11 to happen again and go to war with the enemy, then complain when your government try to provent illegals and people who have something to hide from roaming your country, like the pedophiles jumping bail, and the terrorist illegal immergrants, If you want a better, criminal free, safe country, you have to make sacrifices too, its not all george bush's fault for fck sake. you have more freedom and rights then every fcking country on earth. If you think thats bad, try living in the Europe, where it really IS like living in nazi germany.
Reply:I have no problem with a national ID card. We already need a driver's license or some form of official ID for most things. It makes me a bit sick that more id is required to buy a beer or rent a movie than it is to vote for leader of the free world.
I'm not sure of what you're referring to as far as the check points. We could probably due with out the raging anti-sematism and genocide of Nazi Germany.
Reply:That is the most unconstitutional, anti-free society idea I've ever head in my life.
Reply:Angel of Death
" In fact the only state I know of that has checkpoints to enter is also the most Liberal state in America,California."
The only CHECKPOINT THAT WE HAVE - IS THE ONE THAT SEPERATES THE U. S. FROM MEXICO.
Get your facts.
As far as nation id cards - isn't the S.S card already considered one?
Reply:We already have ID cards. I think the national ID is a great way to deal with the immigration problems we have.
I do not think this will make the US equate to the Nazis.
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Do you support government efforts to implement national ID cards+internal armed checkpoints like Nazi Germany?
We already have the checkpoints for commercial vehicles, so what!
Reply:if bush wants it im against it
Reply:National ID I don't really haqve a huge problem with,why is that any worse than a drivers license or social security card. In fact it might be nice to have an ID that replaced both,and had enough info to make it extremely hard to counterfeit,which would in turn help with Illegal Immigration.
As for armed checkpoints,I have heard no talk of that,sounds a little paranoid to me. In fact the only state I know of that has checkpoints to enter is also the most Liberal state in America,California.
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Reply:Of course not. If we allow this to happen it is ourselves who are to blame.
Reply:You elected him, You can't complain that you never want 9-11 to happen again and go to war with the enemy, then complain when your government try to provent illegals and people who have something to hide from roaming your country, like the pedophiles jumping bail, and the terrorist illegal immergrants, If you want a better, criminal free, safe country, you have to make sacrifices too, its not all george bush's fault for fck sake. you have more freedom and rights then every fcking country on earth. If you think thats bad, try living in the Europe, where it really IS like living in nazi germany.
Reply:I have no problem with a national ID card. We already need a driver's license or some form of official ID for most things. It makes me a bit sick that more id is required to buy a beer or rent a movie than it is to vote for leader of the free world.
I'm not sure of what you're referring to as far as the check points. We could probably due with out the raging anti-sematism and genocide of Nazi Germany.
Reply:That is the most unconstitutional, anti-free society idea I've ever head in my life.
Reply:Angel of Death
" In fact the only state I know of that has checkpoints to enter is also the most Liberal state in America,California."
The only CHECKPOINT THAT WE HAVE - IS THE ONE THAT SEPERATES THE U. S. FROM MEXICO.
Get your facts.
As far as nation id cards - isn't the S.S card already considered one?
Reply:We already have ID cards. I think the national ID is a great way to deal with the immigration problems we have.
I do not think this will make the US equate to the Nazis.
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Id cards and driver licenses?
im 15 and i want to get a state id card and i was wondering if i get a id card can i get my drivers license at 16 still or do i have to wait for the card to expire? by the way i live in ohio. can i only have the id card for a year then get the drivers license?
Id cards and driver licenses?
no you can have both at the same time drivers liscence works for both but ID only works for ID
Reply:You can get an ID card, but when you get a licence, the state will be sending you your Drivers Licence in the mail because there's a difference in the two cards.
Reply:Hello,
I think in most of the fifty United States, the age requirement for having a driver's license is sixteen (16 years). But this may also vary in some states to eighteen (18 years) or more.
However, when someone who qualifies get a driver's license, it is only valid in that specific state for driving purposes.
But it can also be an identity card for a US citizen travelling in any one of the fifty United States.
If you intend to cross the US borders into another country, that would require a passport, permit, or some form of VISA (or permission) to enter that country!
Bringbaka.
NYC.
Reply:you dont have to wait for the card to expire but when you get your drivers license they'll take your Id card because you have a new form of ID (your drivers license) and they think if you have both you'll edit one to make yourself 21 or something..
Reply:You can apply for the license whenever you want. Your ID card will be void as soon as you get the license in your hand (they may or may not ask you to turn it in, but the magnetic strip will stop working).
Id cards and driver licenses?
no you can have both at the same time drivers liscence works for both but ID only works for ID
Reply:You can get an ID card, but when you get a licence, the state will be sending you your Drivers Licence in the mail because there's a difference in the two cards.
Reply:Hello,
I think in most of the fifty United States, the age requirement for having a driver's license is sixteen (16 years). But this may also vary in some states to eighteen (18 years) or more.
However, when someone who qualifies get a driver's license, it is only valid in that specific state for driving purposes.
But it can also be an identity card for a US citizen travelling in any one of the fifty United States.
If you intend to cross the US borders into another country, that would require a passport, permit, or some form of VISA (or permission) to enter that country!
Bringbaka.
NYC.
Reply:you dont have to wait for the card to expire but when you get your drivers license they'll take your Id card because you have a new form of ID (your drivers license) and they think if you have both you'll edit one to make yourself 21 or something..
Reply:You can apply for the license whenever you want. Your ID card will be void as soon as you get the license in your hand (they may or may not ask you to turn it in, but the magnetic strip will stop working).
Are we supposed to be getting ID cards in the UK?
I'm not into politics at all, just heard someone mention it the other day.
Good idea, bad idea?
Are we supposed to be getting ID cards in the UK?
Yes we are. The government line is that it will help the fight against crime (and illegal immigration) Opinion is divided about its 'benefits' In addition there is the worry that every major project undertaken by this government has been a disaster especially in the areas of new technology.
The failures of computer systems in the Home office, NHS, Customs, the Passports fiasco are just the ones I can remember quickly.
Add to that the fact that the law abiding citizen is the one who will pay, perhaps a s much as £1,000 depending on the size of your family. It looks like another stealth tax to employ a few extra people at the public's' expense and a further payback to the big business that has funded Tony and Gordon's big adventure.
You can add road pricing as another in the same league, along with the insidious use of speed cameras to raise revenue.
Not a fan as I don't believe it will tackle the real cause of crime in the UK
Reply:If we have to have I.D. cards with all the information that they are said to be able to hold then why do we need a Passport? Report Abuse
Reply:yes, if the idiot liberals running around shouting 'freedom' don't get their sodding way. It would be another instrument to cut social security fraud by illegals, but I supposethe Arabs will soon learn how to forge them, like passports
Reply:Everyone will get one, except the terrorists, who will forge them.
Reply:Yes, starting with foreigners living in the UK. The government has had so many disasters I suspect it will be another costly fiasco. BTW, Spain has ID cards and it didn't stop terrorism there.
Reply:Bad idea, expensive idea and draconian infringement of our liberties. It should be opposed all the way.
Time for a little civil disobedience!
Reply:hopefully not.its a complete farce and a total waste of money.
Reply:yes got to infowars.com or prisonplanet.com in one of those sites all the info you need is there.
Reply:Being introduced in 2009
compulsory by 2010
all details on the home office website
Good idea, bad idea?
Are we supposed to be getting ID cards in the UK?
Yes we are. The government line is that it will help the fight against crime (and illegal immigration) Opinion is divided about its 'benefits' In addition there is the worry that every major project undertaken by this government has been a disaster especially in the areas of new technology.
The failures of computer systems in the Home office, NHS, Customs, the Passports fiasco are just the ones I can remember quickly.
Add to that the fact that the law abiding citizen is the one who will pay, perhaps a s much as £1,000 depending on the size of your family. It looks like another stealth tax to employ a few extra people at the public's' expense and a further payback to the big business that has funded Tony and Gordon's big adventure.
You can add road pricing as another in the same league, along with the insidious use of speed cameras to raise revenue.
Not a fan as I don't believe it will tackle the real cause of crime in the UK
Reply:If we have to have I.D. cards with all the information that they are said to be able to hold then why do we need a Passport? Report Abuse
Reply:yes, if the idiot liberals running around shouting 'freedom' don't get their sodding way. It would be another instrument to cut social security fraud by illegals, but I supposethe Arabs will soon learn how to forge them, like passports
Reply:Everyone will get one, except the terrorists, who will forge them.
Reply:Yes, starting with foreigners living in the UK. The government has had so many disasters I suspect it will be another costly fiasco. BTW, Spain has ID cards and it didn't stop terrorism there.
Reply:Bad idea, expensive idea and draconian infringement of our liberties. It should be opposed all the way.
Time for a little civil disobedience!
Reply:hopefully not.its a complete farce and a total waste of money.
Reply:yes got to infowars.com or prisonplanet.com in one of those sites all the info you need is there.
Reply:Being introduced in 2009
compulsory by 2010
all details on the home office website
Is Oregon Interim ID card valid for traveling to and from Canada?
My daughter is going to camp in Canada. She needs a passport or a valid id. Oregon used to issue id cards on the spot - now the issue interim cards and the plastic one comes in the mail 5 - 10 days later. I wasn't aware of the change and didn't plan to allow for the extra days. problem is - she leaves for camp Monday! Yikes! Will she be able to use her interim card?
Did Tule Lake (a japanese internment camp) have ID cards to determine who was who?
Please answer- all help is needed, even if you have some facts about the tule lake camp, your answer is welcome. Please list your source.
Did Tule Lake (a japanese internment camp) have ID cards to determine who was who?
Yes, %26amp; the link below should show an example of one:
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt80...
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Did Tule Lake (a japanese internment camp) have ID cards to determine who was who?
Yes, %26amp; the link below should show an example of one:
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt80...
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Pokemon Cards POP ID, can i use the one i made on pokemon.com for my first competition?
i ahvent played at a pokemon tournament yet, but i have made an account on pokemon.com. my account has a POP ID code. can i use taht when i go to my first tournament, or do the officials HAVE to make me a new one?
If i can use mine, do i jsut bring it with me?
Pokemon Cards POP ID, can i use the one i made on pokemon.com for my first competition?
The POP ID you get from the website is acceptable at tournaments.
I did what you did, printed out my ID, and have used it at every tournament I've been in. I'd venture to guess that as long as you at least have your POP ID number with you, it will be acceptable.
If i can use mine, do i jsut bring it with me?
Pokemon Cards POP ID, can i use the one i made on pokemon.com for my first competition?
The POP ID you get from the website is acceptable at tournaments.
I did what you did, printed out my ID, and have used it at every tournament I've been in. I'd venture to guess that as long as you at least have your POP ID number with you, it will be acceptable.
Will you tell the government to stop taking liberties if we are told to have ID cards?
They have our details already and my hospital even has my blood so WTF?????
We would be mad to let them get away with this.
Will you tell the government to stop taking liberties if we are told to have ID cards?
Oh yes! Think I'd have to migrate if that happened, hate them thinking they have the right to do that (and a lot of other things)
By the way, you should be able to see your own medical records, surely...
Harumph, ellis would never let 'em get away with it.
Reply:I don't think they would be taking liberties. I am in agreement that we should all have official ID cards. If you have nothing to hide, why not. It would also cut down on fraud, terrorism, etc. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
Reply:We need at least voting ID cards so we can confirm only legal Americans right to vote.
We wouldn't want illegals voting.
More election fraud....
Reply:I won't be getting one feck the consequences.
Reply:YOu cannot buy take out without a card from your bank or a charge card or cash. Drive without an ID card. They have you. You all should have paid attention to RON PAUL.
Reply:No,,they will take liberties whatever they do to us,,that`s thier job,,
We would be mad to let them get away with this.
Will you tell the government to stop taking liberties if we are told to have ID cards?
Oh yes! Think I'd have to migrate if that happened, hate them thinking they have the right to do that (and a lot of other things)
By the way, you should be able to see your own medical records, surely...
Harumph, ellis would never let 'em get away with it.
Reply:I don't think they would be taking liberties. I am in agreement that we should all have official ID cards. If you have nothing to hide, why not. It would also cut down on fraud, terrorism, etc. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
Reply:We need at least voting ID cards so we can confirm only legal Americans right to vote.
We wouldn't want illegals voting.
More election fraud....
Reply:I won't be getting one feck the consequences.
Reply:YOu cannot buy take out without a card from your bank or a charge card or cash. Drive without an ID card. They have you. You all should have paid attention to RON PAUL.
Reply:No,,they will take liberties whatever they do to us,,that`s thier job,,
Does american red cross issue out donor id cards to people who infected with std's?
Red Cross policy
Sexually Transmitted Disease
Wait 12 months after treatment for syphilis or gonorrhea.
Acceptable if it has been more than 12 months since you completed treatment for syphilis or gonorrhea.
Chlamydia, venereal warts (human papilloma virus), or genital herpes are not a cause for deferral if you are feeling healthy and well and meet all other eligibility requirements.
the Red Cross guideline on STD's and blood donations:
Does american red cross issue out donor id cards to people who infected with std's?
I assume that if a person
a) is not at high risk for a blood-transmitted disease and
b) wants to give blood
that the Red Cross would, and should, give them a donor card.
They aren't going to be having sex with the blood recipient. Only giving them blood. So if they don't have a blood-bourne disease, what's the issue?
Sexually Transmitted Disease
Wait 12 months after treatment for syphilis or gonorrhea.
Acceptable if it has been more than 12 months since you completed treatment for syphilis or gonorrhea.
Chlamydia, venereal warts (human papilloma virus), or genital herpes are not a cause for deferral if you are feeling healthy and well and meet all other eligibility requirements.
the Red Cross guideline on STD's and blood donations:
Does american red cross issue out donor id cards to people who infected with std's?
I assume that if a person
a) is not at high risk for a blood-transmitted disease and
b) wants to give blood
that the Red Cross would, and should, give them a donor card.
They aren't going to be having sex with the blood recipient. Only giving them blood. So if they don't have a blood-bourne disease, what's the issue?
If ID cards become compulsory in the UK, at your expense, will you rebel & refuse to get one?
ID cards could cost £200 to £300 and IT experts have stated that they will increase the risk of ID theft. Pilot ID cards have been hacked inside minutes.
They will also have RFIS technology, meaning your details can be read remotely without your knowledge and you will have your movements tracked and recorded on a central database.
Some people think a plastic card is the solution to terrorism and wil be like garlic to a vampire. But the Madrid terrorists carried ID cards, the 7/7 bombers carried ID and the 9/11 hijackers carried passport ID, so it won’t scare of Bin Laden and Co
With no obvious benefit to the British people, but many, many drawbacks to privacy at a very high price, will you refuse ID cards if (when) they become mandatory?
If I’ve missed the point here, and you can sell the benefits to me, please respond.
Don’t type abuse here – I’m trying to gauge British feelings and views.
If ID cards become compulsory in the UK, at your expense, will you rebel %26amp; refuse to get one?
Yep - there are no benefits. Why should I have to prove myself to the government? They dug the hole for themselves as far as this so called terrorist threat was concerned, they can dig themselves out of it. It is nothing to do with me - they have no right to stop me and check my ID.
And another thing - what is all this crap about profiling Muslims at airports and universities? Isn't this stereotyping? It's like saying because I'm a woman, I have to stay at home and do the housework. Most people have moved on - this is 2006!
Reply:probably yes
Reply:I would resist it as long as poss,but at the end of the day they have you over a barell.They would eventualy make you show it to withdraw money,buy certain goods(tv eqpt to check you have a licence),to get paid by your employer,to keep tabs on your co2 quota and your movements.Just look at the info Tescos can get on you if you have a loyalty card collating allthe info over a period of time they can even work out when the women in a household menstruate !! I say a big no to it.We have all been stuck behind someone in a shopping que when their card wont go through just imagine the hassle created in your life if you cant obtain goodsor services or even a doctors appointment when your ID card wont go through -"COMPUTER SAYS NO" sorry nuffink I can do youll have to call the helpline!
Reply:How exactly do the government expect all those who are struggling to survive the burden of Gordon Brown's tax regime to find yet more money to pay for a piece of plastic which is of no benefit whatsoever to its carrier ?
ID cards are yet another government scam to deprive us of our freedom and our money. We should all refuse to get one. Our prisons are already full to bursting - they can't lock us all up. For that matter, the court system couldn't cope with a mass rebellion either.
Reply:I would refuse to have one.
Reply:I cannot see the point of I.D. cards. We already have driving licences and passports. Why on earth do we need something else? To me it's just another way of taking even more of our hard earned money away from us. I think that we should all en-masse refuse to have them.
Reply:i can understand why the government wants us to have one, but also i believe that we shouldn't be forced to buy one, taking into consideration the hefty price tag. £200, 300 is a lot of money, as i am a full-time student currently at university and plus, i am unemployed as well. if they are mandatory, then yes i will not buy one and anyhow, even if we did have ID cards, i still think this won't prevent further terrorist attacks taking place in britain and as you stated the terrorists of the 9/11, 7/7 and madrid bombings had in their possession ID cards, and still they managed to murder thousands of innocent people in the process. so what makes the government think that having ID cards will curb the terrorism issue and stop potential terrorists plotting further attacks? because i believe that even if we did have ID cards, it still won't stop the future bin laden's and al-qaeda operatives from killing and murdering thousands of innocent people here in britain
Reply:You WILL be getting an ID card so you better get used to it. It will be a civil offence if you don't turn up (or have a reasonable excuse) to have your details taken. This will be in the form of a regular FINE. You will not be taken to prison, if you don't accept it you will be gradually made BANKRUPT. This is enough of a deterrent for most people.
Just to say that I am 100% against ID cards and the perverted "slavery is freedom" philosophy behind them. But there will be no grand protests and those that do refuse will be quietly dealt with away from the Press. If - when it comes down to it - you really do refuse, then you have my utmost respect.
Reply:The HELL with ID Cards. It is just another scam the goverment is running us! to make more money to fuel the war.
Reply:I am not paying for an ID card,If they want me to have one then they can give it to me.
Reply:I'm not getting one
Reply:I won't be getting one, if people knew the full scale of the proposals they probably wouldn't want one either.
Surprisingly the government is being underhand about them. I wonder how much of a kickback they're getting from the IT manufacturers and "thinktanks"?
Reply:Yes I will rebel and refuse to get one. I will certainly not pay out for something I neither want nor asked for!!!
Reply:i will never get one they can lock me up but with the state of out prision system i dont think they can.
Reply:The Government will get the money anyway so you might as well take the worthless card.
Reply:Anyone who knows anything about IT, or the govts track record on large scale IT projects is sweating!
A passport is ID. No on has explained how ID is supposed to stop a suicide bomber, yet thats supposedly why we need them.
A credit card is ID. You'd think the credit card companies have a vested interest in keeping the system secure yet the servers of the major companies were hacked last year and tens of thousands of numbers stolen - if you got any unexplained items on your bill you were told your id was stolen and told to buy a shredder.
All the info on us will be available for sale to business to target us for advertising more effectively. (Like I need more junk mail and more pressure to get into debt).
The poll tax was scrapped after years of protest only to be replaced by the community charge and an increase in VAT, it was addedd to gas an electricity.
I'l think carefully before protesting this one as the penalties seem drastically high.
I have a birth certificate and NI number, that should be enough. I never go abroad, can't afford it.
Reply:postively not!idont live in the uk i live in the us,iwould refuse on the grounds that i know who i am i already have idim also a veteran and a rehabilitated x con if the goverment doesnt have enough on me already then screw em i have nothing to hide
they dont scare or worry me i know all about 3 hots and a cot.
im prepared to meet my maker,are they/
Reply:No!
I will pay the asking amount for it.Why should I rebel?
But I presume If that happens,most of the fellow Britons will refuse to pay and then the working part of Britain has to pay for them instead!
So basically people who work will have to pay double!
Pay for 2 and get only one!
Reply:It will be very difficult to manage without them.The government will make it impossible to get any payments, (pensions,income support,child benefit,etc)without an id card.Mot, passports,in fact, you will be forced to have one.There is no way out of it,unfortunately.The daft thing is,honest people don't need them,%26amp; dis-honest people can get forged ones,for a price.Apart from the illegal invasion of Iraq,this is the most stupid thing Blair %26amp; his gang have done.
Reply:What's the point? I have a driver's license, a passport, a birth certificate, a national insurance number, a tenancy agreement, a bank account - how is it going to make a spot of difference?
It's just such a dumb idea, and it'll be busted wide open by organised criminals.
Reply:Yes i will
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They will also have RFIS technology, meaning your details can be read remotely without your knowledge and you will have your movements tracked and recorded on a central database.
Some people think a plastic card is the solution to terrorism and wil be like garlic to a vampire. But the Madrid terrorists carried ID cards, the 7/7 bombers carried ID and the 9/11 hijackers carried passport ID, so it won’t scare of Bin Laden and Co
With no obvious benefit to the British people, but many, many drawbacks to privacy at a very high price, will you refuse ID cards if (when) they become mandatory?
If I’ve missed the point here, and you can sell the benefits to me, please respond.
Don’t type abuse here – I’m trying to gauge British feelings and views.
If ID cards become compulsory in the UK, at your expense, will you rebel %26amp; refuse to get one?
Yep - there are no benefits. Why should I have to prove myself to the government? They dug the hole for themselves as far as this so called terrorist threat was concerned, they can dig themselves out of it. It is nothing to do with me - they have no right to stop me and check my ID.
And another thing - what is all this crap about profiling Muslims at airports and universities? Isn't this stereotyping? It's like saying because I'm a woman, I have to stay at home and do the housework. Most people have moved on - this is 2006!
Reply:probably yes
Reply:I would resist it as long as poss,but at the end of the day they have you over a barell.They would eventualy make you show it to withdraw money,buy certain goods(tv eqpt to check you have a licence),to get paid by your employer,to keep tabs on your co2 quota and your movements.Just look at the info Tescos can get on you if you have a loyalty card collating allthe info over a period of time they can even work out when the women in a household menstruate !! I say a big no to it.We have all been stuck behind someone in a shopping que when their card wont go through just imagine the hassle created in your life if you cant obtain goodsor services or even a doctors appointment when your ID card wont go through -"COMPUTER SAYS NO" sorry nuffink I can do youll have to call the helpline!
Reply:How exactly do the government expect all those who are struggling to survive the burden of Gordon Brown's tax regime to find yet more money to pay for a piece of plastic which is of no benefit whatsoever to its carrier ?
ID cards are yet another government scam to deprive us of our freedom and our money. We should all refuse to get one. Our prisons are already full to bursting - they can't lock us all up. For that matter, the court system couldn't cope with a mass rebellion either.
Reply:I would refuse to have one.
Reply:I cannot see the point of I.D. cards. We already have driving licences and passports. Why on earth do we need something else? To me it's just another way of taking even more of our hard earned money away from us. I think that we should all en-masse refuse to have them.
Reply:i can understand why the government wants us to have one, but also i believe that we shouldn't be forced to buy one, taking into consideration the hefty price tag. £200, 300 is a lot of money, as i am a full-time student currently at university and plus, i am unemployed as well. if they are mandatory, then yes i will not buy one and anyhow, even if we did have ID cards, i still think this won't prevent further terrorist attacks taking place in britain and as you stated the terrorists of the 9/11, 7/7 and madrid bombings had in their possession ID cards, and still they managed to murder thousands of innocent people in the process. so what makes the government think that having ID cards will curb the terrorism issue and stop potential terrorists plotting further attacks? because i believe that even if we did have ID cards, it still won't stop the future bin laden's and al-qaeda operatives from killing and murdering thousands of innocent people here in britain
Reply:You WILL be getting an ID card so you better get used to it. It will be a civil offence if you don't turn up (or have a reasonable excuse) to have your details taken. This will be in the form of a regular FINE. You will not be taken to prison, if you don't accept it you will be gradually made BANKRUPT. This is enough of a deterrent for most people.
Just to say that I am 100% against ID cards and the perverted "slavery is freedom" philosophy behind them. But there will be no grand protests and those that do refuse will be quietly dealt with away from the Press. If - when it comes down to it - you really do refuse, then you have my utmost respect.
Reply:The HELL with ID Cards. It is just another scam the goverment is running us! to make more money to fuel the war.
Reply:I am not paying for an ID card,If they want me to have one then they can give it to me.
Reply:I'm not getting one
Reply:I won't be getting one, if people knew the full scale of the proposals they probably wouldn't want one either.
Surprisingly the government is being underhand about them. I wonder how much of a kickback they're getting from the IT manufacturers and "thinktanks"?
Reply:Yes I will rebel and refuse to get one. I will certainly not pay out for something I neither want nor asked for!!!
Reply:i will never get one they can lock me up but with the state of out prision system i dont think they can.
Reply:The Government will get the money anyway so you might as well take the worthless card.
Reply:Anyone who knows anything about IT, or the govts track record on large scale IT projects is sweating!
A passport is ID. No on has explained how ID is supposed to stop a suicide bomber, yet thats supposedly why we need them.
A credit card is ID. You'd think the credit card companies have a vested interest in keeping the system secure yet the servers of the major companies were hacked last year and tens of thousands of numbers stolen - if you got any unexplained items on your bill you were told your id was stolen and told to buy a shredder.
All the info on us will be available for sale to business to target us for advertising more effectively. (Like I need more junk mail and more pressure to get into debt).
The poll tax was scrapped after years of protest only to be replaced by the community charge and an increase in VAT, it was addedd to gas an electricity.
I'l think carefully before protesting this one as the penalties seem drastically high.
I have a birth certificate and NI number, that should be enough. I never go abroad, can't afford it.
Reply:postively not!idont live in the uk i live in the us,iwould refuse on the grounds that i know who i am i already have idim also a veteran and a rehabilitated x con if the goverment doesnt have enough on me already then screw em i have nothing to hide
they dont scare or worry me i know all about 3 hots and a cot.
im prepared to meet my maker,are they/
Reply:No!
I will pay the asking amount for it.Why should I rebel?
But I presume If that happens,most of the fellow Britons will refuse to pay and then the working part of Britain has to pay for them instead!
So basically people who work will have to pay double!
Pay for 2 and get only one!
Reply:It will be very difficult to manage without them.The government will make it impossible to get any payments, (pensions,income support,child benefit,etc)without an id card.Mot, passports,in fact, you will be forced to have one.There is no way out of it,unfortunately.The daft thing is,honest people don't need them,%26amp; dis-honest people can get forged ones,for a price.Apart from the illegal invasion of Iraq,this is the most stupid thing Blair %26amp; his gang have done.
Reply:What's the point? I have a driver's license, a passport, a birth certificate, a national insurance number, a tenancy agreement, a bank account - how is it going to make a spot of difference?
It's just such a dumb idea, and it'll be busted wide open by organised criminals.
Reply:Yes i will
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What do i need to print ID cards?
i want to make up some ID cards and i want them made on that PVC stuff. what will i need to buy to do it?? i was also think about getting a hologram put on the cards... is this expensive/hard?? as much detail as you can spare. thanks brett ;)
What do i need to print ID cards?
if u print the real id cards legally then contact me 9996156844,
otherwise not dear
What do i need to print ID cards?
if u print the real id cards legally then contact me 9996156844,
otherwise not dear
In May 2008 we are all going to have to start carrying Federal ID cards. I think the resistance starts now.?
No, you obedient facist morons, that was not a question. It was a rallying cry for people who still love America - not you sickening sycophants who worship at the cult of Cheney.
In May 2008 we are all going to have to start carrying Federal ID cards. I think the resistance starts now.?
That's what a lot of the illegal immigrant hype has been about. They get us all riled up, and make no real attempts to change the situation...they they tell us the national id cards will stop illegal immigration, and if we have a problem with it we must be hiding something. Just watch and see how many Americans let it happen, and even ask for it to happen...using the same old line about being, "wiling to give up some civil liberties in return for safety...
Reply:I thought those were just for foreigners entering the country?
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You don't burn your home to catch mice.
Just like you don't kill yourself to cure the flu.
Reply:All cars since 2000 have an RFID chip already in them. There is a big push to turn all bridges in my state into toll ways which will require an RFID chip in the window of the car/truck. There is already a system being implemented at the Canadian border to "pre-register" commercial trucks, drivers and loads so the trucks wont have to stop at the border.
The "Real-ID" drivers license is a "step" towards the ultimate goal of the globalists...electronic currency micro-chip based economies with all people required to be "chipped" to buy and sell anything. This last step will NOT be optional!
Yes many will "revolt" and they will be eliminated.
Reply:More and more I'm appreciative of the fact that I'm a citizen of Canada. Aren't you Americans at least a little concerned that you're marching down the road to a fascist, totalitarian state?
Reply:is this for real!?!?!?!?
what's wrong with a driver's license? kinda creepy to me! one more reason why im happy up here in the great white north....
Reply:haha well they're a dwindling 20 something percent now....i will carry that ID card just like i signed up for the draft *wink. I would love to be sitting in Fed Pen because i forgot my ID...that would make a great story for my grandchildren.
Reply:ill carry the card once i cut out the RFID chip in it, then mail it back to the whitehouse
Reply:Let's see 'em try and make me! I'll stop banking completely and stock-up on food or start growing my own. I imagine there will be a huge opposition to this, not only from the people but from the agencies that are in charge of the cost and implementation of this massive bureaucratic overhaul.
Reply:Why do you have a problem with a federal ID card? I have four forms of picture ID.
Do you call anyone who doesn't agree with your rants "facist [sic] morons"?
BTW. You spelled fascist wrong, moron.
Reply:Unreal that this nonsense is gonna happen. Excerpt from the news
"Many states have revolted. The governors of Idaho, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Washington have signed bills refusing to comply with the act. Six others have passed bills and/or resolutions expressing opposition, and 15 have similar legislation pending."
Reply:Right on!
Reply:and if Hillary gets elected, they'll blame it on Clinton!
Reply:Why would we need one? Certainly not for the free health care the Democrats are promising the illegals. Just die your hair black and learn Spanish.
Reply:I think its a great idea..you have no clue as to how many people we can lock up once we can start asking them for an ID...there are 3000 child molesters alone missing after Katrina loose in the country...they'll be toast when we get the ID system up and running...
In May 2008 we are all going to have to start carrying Federal ID cards. I think the resistance starts now.?
That's what a lot of the illegal immigrant hype has been about. They get us all riled up, and make no real attempts to change the situation...they they tell us the national id cards will stop illegal immigration, and if we have a problem with it we must be hiding something. Just watch and see how many Americans let it happen, and even ask for it to happen...using the same old line about being, "wiling to give up some civil liberties in return for safety...
Reply:I thought those were just for foreigners entering the country?
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gandamack2
You don't burn your home to catch mice.
Just like you don't kill yourself to cure the flu.
Reply:All cars since 2000 have an RFID chip already in them. There is a big push to turn all bridges in my state into toll ways which will require an RFID chip in the window of the car/truck. There is already a system being implemented at the Canadian border to "pre-register" commercial trucks, drivers and loads so the trucks wont have to stop at the border.
The "Real-ID" drivers license is a "step" towards the ultimate goal of the globalists...electronic currency micro-chip based economies with all people required to be "chipped" to buy and sell anything. This last step will NOT be optional!
Yes many will "revolt" and they will be eliminated.
Reply:More and more I'm appreciative of the fact that I'm a citizen of Canada. Aren't you Americans at least a little concerned that you're marching down the road to a fascist, totalitarian state?
Reply:is this for real!?!?!?!?
what's wrong with a driver's license? kinda creepy to me! one more reason why im happy up here in the great white north....
Reply:haha well they're a dwindling 20 something percent now....i will carry that ID card just like i signed up for the draft *wink. I would love to be sitting in Fed Pen because i forgot my ID...that would make a great story for my grandchildren.
Reply:ill carry the card once i cut out the RFID chip in it, then mail it back to the whitehouse
Reply:Let's see 'em try and make me! I'll stop banking completely and stock-up on food or start growing my own. I imagine there will be a huge opposition to this, not only from the people but from the agencies that are in charge of the cost and implementation of this massive bureaucratic overhaul.
Reply:Why do you have a problem with a federal ID card? I have four forms of picture ID.
Do you call anyone who doesn't agree with your rants "facist [sic] morons"?
BTW. You spelled fascist wrong, moron.
Reply:Unreal that this nonsense is gonna happen. Excerpt from the news
"Many states have revolted. The governors of Idaho, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Washington have signed bills refusing to comply with the act. Six others have passed bills and/or resolutions expressing opposition, and 15 have similar legislation pending."
Reply:Right on!
Reply:and if Hillary gets elected, they'll blame it on Clinton!
Reply:Why would we need one? Certainly not for the free health care the Democrats are promising the illegals. Just die your hair black and learn Spanish.
Reply:I think its a great idea..you have no clue as to how many people we can lock up once we can start asking them for an ID...there are 3000 child molesters alone missing after Katrina loose in the country...they'll be toast when we get the ID system up and running...
Were can i download id cards for free?
because me and some of my friends are starting a safty patrol at school and we would like some id cards
Were can i download id cards for free?
make them with word then laminate the badge, you will get templates from http://www.microsoft.com and go to the office page and you should find the templates. ctc
Reply:If you mean badge templates, I'd try office.microsoft.com
Were can i download id cards for free?
make them with word then laminate the badge, you will get templates from http://www.microsoft.com and go to the office page and you should find the templates. ctc
Reply:If you mean badge templates, I'd try office.microsoft.com
Do children need passports or ID cards to go to the Irish republic?
Well if you are driving across the border from Northern Ireland and you are a UK citizen then you need nothing. Zippo. Nada.
If you are a foreign national then you will need a passport with you at all times - flying or not.
If you are a UK citizen flying into the Republic then ID is needed.
Do children need passports or ID cards to go to the Irish republic?
passport
Reply:Depends on where u are coming from and whether you are from another part of Europe other than UK and how you are travelling.
Reply:Definitely a passport....that's if your travelling from outside of Ireland!
Reply:the need the exact same requirements as an adult
passport if you are a european union citizen
passport and visa if you are a non-EU citizen
Reply:Yes, they need passports...no matter what country you are from.
Reply:If they are from the UK or Ireland or non-EU, they need a passport or to be included in their parent's passport. If they are from an EU country they can use their national ID card.
UK and Irish people, who were born in the UK or Ireland, can use a drivers license, but kids can't, obviously.
Reply:if you are flying yes if you go by ferry you may be lucky and not need them notice the word MAY NOT.
I assume you mean from England
if you are flying a passport is a must for id.
if you are a child you require a passport to fly from london to manchester because the only other id they accept is a driving licence photocard and children cannot have got one because of the age
Reply:If they are flying from the UK, then yes, absolutely, they need passports. We don't have ID cards in the UK.
Reply:If you are talking about British citizens, no one needs a passport or ID to enter the Irish Republic from the UK, either adults or children.
Reply:Yes
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If you are a foreign national then you will need a passport with you at all times - flying or not.
If you are a UK citizen flying into the Republic then ID is needed.
Do children need passports or ID cards to go to the Irish republic?
passport
Reply:Depends on where u are coming from and whether you are from another part of Europe other than UK and how you are travelling.
Reply:Definitely a passport....that's if your travelling from outside of Ireland!
Reply:the need the exact same requirements as an adult
passport if you are a european union citizen
passport and visa if you are a non-EU citizen
Reply:Yes, they need passports...no matter what country you are from.
Reply:If they are from the UK or Ireland or non-EU, they need a passport or to be included in their parent's passport. If they are from an EU country they can use their national ID card.
UK and Irish people, who were born in the UK or Ireland, can use a drivers license, but kids can't, obviously.
Reply:if you are flying yes if you go by ferry you may be lucky and not need them notice the word MAY NOT.
I assume you mean from England
if you are flying a passport is a must for id.
if you are a child you require a passport to fly from london to manchester because the only other id they accept is a driving licence photocard and children cannot have got one because of the age
Reply:If they are flying from the UK, then yes, absolutely, they need passports. We don't have ID cards in the UK.
Reply:If you are talking about British citizens, no one needs a passport or ID to enter the Irish Republic from the UK, either adults or children.
Reply:Yes
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Is this a valid ID card for travelling to countries of the Schengen zone?
I am planning to travel to Germany (I am from Greece) and I have heard that you don't need a passport to do that since both countries belong to the Schengen zone, but the new type of ID cards. I got my ID card in 2000 and my surname, my name and my father's name are written in both the greek and the latin alphabet. The rest data is written with Greek characters. Is this ID card valid for travelling to Germany and other countries of the Schengen zone? Thanks!
Is this a valid ID card for travelling to countries of the Schengen zone?
http://europa.eu/abc/travel/doc/index_en...
yes, you can travel
have a look also at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_ca...
Reply:Yes it is enough. You can also go to the UK which is part of the EU but not Schengen
Reply:Yes.
Is this a valid ID card for travelling to countries of the Schengen zone?
http://europa.eu/abc/travel/doc/index_en...
yes, you can travel
have a look also at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_ca...
Reply:Yes it is enough. You can also go to the UK which is part of the EU but not Schengen
Reply:Yes.
In view of the inability of the government to keep your data safe, should ID cards idea be scrapped?
yes
In view of the inability of the government to keep your data safe, should ID cards idea be scrapped?
should have been scrapped at the beginning...
Reply:It all depends what data is on there.
I have no problem with a card that just has a picture, name, address, date of birth and social security number, but when they want to put stuff such as retina imprints, bank account details, you DNA and medical record on it, then I say no.
Reply:Of course. No need for them in the first place. Waste of time and money.
Reply:No.
Reply:Of course it should be scrapped
Reply:Yes 100% it was a stupid idea in the first place.
Reply:Absolutely.......just imagine the recent data losses by government departments over the last few weeks....where is it?names and adresses bank account numbers....who the hell knows....The conmen and fraudsters are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of compulsory ID cards. All that precious information they can duplicate and sell on willing to buyers.
Reply:Yes. And the public should have a huge say in this and reject them now!
Do not support I.D. cards, lobby yr MP's now and refuse to have anything to do with them.
Reply:Yes, of course.
Reply:Hello,
(ANS) No! government should EVER be totally trusted with our private personal details.
**I for one think any government ID card scheme will be a total white elephant on a scale bigger than the Prime Ministers Millennium Dome project.
**An ID card scheme will cost billions (probably as much %26amp; possibly more than the 2012 Olympics fiasco ) to implement if it ever gets off the ground. I suspect it wont happen as the vast majority of UK people have yet to be convinced that ID cards are really needed.
**Charles Clark the then Home Secretary under the Tony Blair government, shortly after 9/11 admitted on TV that ID cards would NOT prevent terrorism which was the original excuses to implement ID cards.
**Any ID card scheme would require one of the biggest national IT computer projects ever. And frankly no! UK government has a credible track record on such projects. Government after government has failed miserably to provide a large scale computer project on time or on budget. UK governments have stumbled from one IT failure to another year after year and still employ US computer companies such as EDS which have a dreadful history of failures.
**YES! I hope ID card never get off the ground, I wont be having one imposed upon me. My personal details are non of the governments business we should still be allowed to have some degree of privacy in this country, surely this privacy is a part of what makes this country a democracy??
Ivan
Reply:yes!
Reply:good idea.
Reply:Yes they should. And this is coming from someone who used to believe they would be a good thing.
All this has certainly opened my eyes.
Reply:yes it seems kinda funny that now after months of knowing about these records going missing that it all comes out, my guess id cards, they done the same thing at the G8 sumit in Scotland, the time london was bombed, Blair came out and said if we had ID cards this could have been prevented, what a lot of **** to be honest, how could it have stopped us. Also EVERYTHING will be on these ID cards, ur NI no. your address everything. What if you loose it there would be a brave panic on to find it, fraud would rocket if someone got there hands on it, they not think its bad enough at the minute with the credit card fraud?
In view of the inability of the government to keep your data safe, should ID cards idea be scrapped?
should have been scrapped at the beginning...
Reply:It all depends what data is on there.
I have no problem with a card that just has a picture, name, address, date of birth and social security number, but when they want to put stuff such as retina imprints, bank account details, you DNA and medical record on it, then I say no.
Reply:Of course. No need for them in the first place. Waste of time and money.
Reply:No.
Reply:Of course it should be scrapped
Reply:Yes 100% it was a stupid idea in the first place.
Reply:Absolutely.......just imagine the recent data losses by government departments over the last few weeks....where is it?names and adresses bank account numbers....who the hell knows....The conmen and fraudsters are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of compulsory ID cards. All that precious information they can duplicate and sell on willing to buyers.
Reply:Yes. And the public should have a huge say in this and reject them now!
Do not support I.D. cards, lobby yr MP's now and refuse to have anything to do with them.
Reply:Yes, of course.
Reply:Hello,
(ANS) No! government should EVER be totally trusted with our private personal details.
**I for one think any government ID card scheme will be a total white elephant on a scale bigger than the Prime Ministers Millennium Dome project.
**An ID card scheme will cost billions (probably as much %26amp; possibly more than the 2012 Olympics fiasco ) to implement if it ever gets off the ground. I suspect it wont happen as the vast majority of UK people have yet to be convinced that ID cards are really needed.
**Charles Clark the then Home Secretary under the Tony Blair government, shortly after 9/11 admitted on TV that ID cards would NOT prevent terrorism which was the original excuses to implement ID cards.
**Any ID card scheme would require one of the biggest national IT computer projects ever. And frankly no! UK government has a credible track record on such projects. Government after government has failed miserably to provide a large scale computer project on time or on budget. UK governments have stumbled from one IT failure to another year after year and still employ US computer companies such as EDS which have a dreadful history of failures.
**YES! I hope ID card never get off the ground, I wont be having one imposed upon me. My personal details are non of the governments business we should still be allowed to have some degree of privacy in this country, surely this privacy is a part of what makes this country a democracy??
Ivan
Reply:yes!
Reply:good idea.
Reply:Yes they should. And this is coming from someone who used to believe they would be a good thing.
All this has certainly opened my eyes.
Reply:yes it seems kinda funny that now after months of knowing about these records going missing that it all comes out, my guess id cards, they done the same thing at the G8 sumit in Scotland, the time london was bombed, Blair came out and said if we had ID cards this could have been prevented, what a lot of **** to be honest, how could it have stopped us. Also EVERYTHING will be on these ID cards, ur NI no. your address everything. What if you loose it there would be a brave panic on to find it, fraud would rocket if someone got there hands on it, they not think its bad enough at the minute with the credit card fraud?
Where is a website where I can make free School ID cards?
I have just started a private school, and I need to make id cards for students...
Where is a website where I can make free School ID cards?
It would be easy enough to make them in Paint or Paint SHop Pro.. I suggest googling Free+School+ID+Card+Maker
Reply:just do em on paper and laminate them!
Where is a website where I can make free School ID cards?
It would be easy enough to make them in Paint or Paint SHop Pro.. I suggest googling Free+School+ID+Card+Maker
Reply:just do em on paper and laminate them!
How can u make id cards?
me and my friends are starting a club, and we want to make this look professional. so does anybody know what kind of hardware/machine i could buy that would make cards? as in a card that has your info and your picture. just like a college student id.
How can u make id cards?
When I Googed " ID Card Printer " there were tons of sites.
Here's an example:
http://www.ultramagicard.com/
Google and research. I went with Ultra Magic for my work's security badge.
Hope this helps.
Reply:you mean the id card that says you are 21.
Reply:the machines for plastic ID cards are really expensive. you could probably do better with some business cards and those sticky laminated strips. both are sold at office stationary stores.
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How can u make id cards?
When I Googed " ID Card Printer " there were tons of sites.
Here's an example:
http://www.ultramagicard.com/
Google and research. I went with Ultra Magic for my work's security badge.
Hope this helps.
Reply:you mean the id card that says you are 21.
Reply:the machines for plastic ID cards are really expensive. you could probably do better with some business cards and those sticky laminated strips. both are sold at office stationary stores.
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ID cards. What are your objections & why?
It is increasingly likely, in fact, it is definitely going to happen, that we will all be issued with National ID cards in the near future.
What do you think of this idea? If you are for it - why? And if you are against - why? And if you are not bothered either way - why?
ID cards. What are your objections %26amp; why?
Normally I would not object to ID cards, I used to have on when in the RAF. and I have to carry one for work normally.
But the governments ID card is more than that, it holds too much details about you that the governement cannot be trusted with and it will sell the details off to people. Just take a look a car number plate recognition, they now employ private companies who have access to your details. Is this right, who vets the people who work there? because some of them are low paid and I am sure could easly be bribed.
Secondly the government wants us all to pay for the ID card ourselves, thus it becomes a Tax and thats just not fair.
Reply:There is no point having them. What good do they seriously think they can do? They have had ID cards in South Africa for 40+ years and they have to biggest crime rate in the world. Its a money making swindle.
Reply:I would not be against a card which had my name, date of birth and a photo. Any more than that and it gets dangerous. The government want to charge alot of money for these cards and charge more if anyone's circumstances change or they move addresses - or jobs etc.
I do not trust this government with all my info in one place and certainly do not want it on public display. How long before our medical information would be sold to insurance companies, religious beliefs, educational standards etc. Strangers will know more about me than my immediate family. On the government's website it states that these ID cards would not have to carried all the time - but when will this change? When the government realise they can get more money when people lose them? I also feel that information put on the cards will be that which the highest bidder wants rather than what is necessary.
Reply:we don't have them here, but I would think they would be useful, my sister has one and as she doesn't have a passport, it's useful to travel to Ireland..
Reply:I am against ID cards because I would not trust a member of Whitehall or Government to change my light bulbs never mind hold details on my identity. They could not run a bath! By the time they get round to organising the ID cards the technology will be out of date and it will only be the mainstream of society that will suffer for it. The "underworld" WILL find a way round it - as usual, and the over liberal do-gooders will find an excuse as to why those infringing the ID rules should not be prosecuted or penalised. Information, like people, may be and will be, bought and sold!
Reply:I already carry retired US Marine Corps ID,, driver's license , pilot license passport ND visa what the hell for just waste of time and surely it will have some option to be scanned by SAM
Reply:The one objection that I have is based on the security, or lack thereof in regard to the information on the cards and that held by the government in regard to myself. After all they haven't got such a good record in information protection !
Reply:I'm against it because this government allowed the screwups causing the paranoia that prompted a deman for these damn cards in the first place!
If they wouldn't allow companies to hire illegal immigrants, immigrants who didn't renew their work visas, and would've listened when the FBI and CIA told them there are known terrorists trying to board 747s, the country wouldn't be in this mess overseas or in recession at home.
Reply:Here in Spain we all have to carry them .
They are very useful as proof of identity . (Particularly when shopping !)
I have nothing to hide and have no problem with them.
They prevent a certain amount of identity theft. Nobody can use your credit cards without them. Every card transaction here requires proof of identity. I can´t believ it in the U.K. that I can use my card freely and am not asked to show any other documentation. I could have just found that card on the floor!
I had cheques stolen and cashed with a forged name and false signature in the UK. That wouldn´t happen here.
People are against them because they are something new and different. THey are a good idea in my experience.
edit:
No they won´t prevent gross acts of terrorism but they will stop a huge amount of petty crime.And the cost of that adds up.
Reply:I am for it in principle, but I don't trust those in power to keep my personal details secure.
Reply:I'm not against the principle. ID cards are widespread and common all over the world.
The governments appraoch of trying to "sell" ID cards to the nation as a means of preventing terrorism is a load of cobblers, if you ask me. I do however believe they will be helpful in dealing with criminality on a much lower level.
I am concerned about the cost and practicalities of implementing a national identity card. The recent governmental departments problems with information security are a concern too.
Reply:Totally against it. The idea comes from Europe
and it is just to bring the U.K. in line with Europe.
It can be forged like everything else, so how safe does that make u feel.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3...
The government is not so sure now either. lol.
Reply:I think that this is a great idea.
as long as they have you D O B on as i am sick of being ID and carrying a passport (i don't drive!) is too risky
Reply:Against it. It's another scheme to control people, not to mention a money-making deal.
I've carried an ID card for years. It's called a drivers license and has all the info that is needed. Anything other than my name, address and date of birth is nobody's business but mine.
Some credit card companies are putting microchips in the cards. I'm calling Visa to request one without it.
Reply:In principle I have no objection, although no one has yet explained how it will prevent illegal immigration, benefit fraud and the like. My big objection is that if the government want us to carry it, THEY should pay for it, not impose it and expect us to pay fpr the privilege. Anyhow, given this government's record on "protecting" personal data, how can we trust them?
Reply:I'm going to laugh at the government system from a far. If they send me a card to where I live now I'll throw it away as I'm sure no one will fly to Japan to check if I kept it. The ID card is another waste of taxpayers money by a government who can't think anything through properly. When I was a child I kind of liked my country. Now I have been driven from it by incompetence. I could vote for a different government but they are all useless in the long term anyway. It's better to go elsewhere as far as I'm concerned.
Reply:Im definetly not for it, because there is NO evidence that ID cards actually help track terrorists or reduce immigration, the ID card is an oppertunity for the government to throw away money on what is essentially is a document meant to do the same job as passports, and which will fail. The government needs to adress the issue of how illegal immigrants and terrorists get into the country, for which i would have gladly supported them spending money, and adress the issue at the root, rather than jus buy everyone an id card.
Reply:I have no objections to carrying an ID. card but i will not pay £140 [the current estimated price] for the privilege
Reply:I don't have any objections because having only just turned 18, I know how annoying it is to not have any ID to prove your age. Despite not yet learning to drive, my best option was to pay £40 for a driving licence. ID cards would also be useful where you would need to show a passport or something because some people don't have a driving licence or passport. However, for all the benefits they might bring, I will not buy one at the expected cost which I heard could be as much as £300 as that is beyond rediculous. I moaned about my passsport being over £70!
Reply:I won't be carrying one. I haven't committed any crimes, so why should I be treated like a criminal?
As a previous poster says, Spain has ID cards. But they didn't prevent the Madrid train bombings.
Reply:against it because its a waste of money, another step towards a big brother state and i don't see how they will prevent illegal immigrants coming in
Reply:I have no objection to ID cards, as long as they work and deliver the level of security that is needed. When other similar questions have been asked there is a lot of objection on the grounds that it is an infringement on our freedom. Well some people should wake up and realise that the freedom that we hold so dear is the problem. These freedoms have to be protected from the unscrupulous individuals that want to steal your identity or hide within our society.
Recently someone that we know was arrested for child porn offences, the person was innocent and was eventually cleared of the charges. The FBI had followed an electronic paper trail to this person, because , unknown to them, their identity had been stolen. The person who was falsely arrested lives in the UK, the FBI had become involved and notified British authorities. This could happen to anyone as our freedoms are so easily exploited by criminals and terrorists.
If ID cards will help prevent this kind of incident then we should have them, regardless of costs. Anyone who objects to the principle of defending our freedom and keeping our society secure must have something to hide.
Maybe an ID card with several points of reference is the answer, and any photograph should be held on a data base, so that if the card is scanned the person checking the ID will be able to see if the card holder is genuine. If administered correctly this could be a very effective system and almost impossible to forge, becuase the data will not be held on the card, but on a national data base.
Reply:I dont have a problem with it at all.
Reply:gross waste of money. are the police going to arrest millions of people for not having it on them. no. but it gives the police an excuse to victimise whoever they so please. so if they dont like your face you get thrown in a cell with some psycho.
think it can't happen. look what happened to that poor asian guy they threw into a cell with a known racial killer. yes the guy was murdered in the police cell. that was only a couple of years ago.
Reply:I am totally against ID cards, because I would not trust a member of Whitehall or Government, to change my socks never mind hold details on my identity on a national computer data base.
Reply:Mmm. A photo ID card which contained the same information as your passport and driving licence would be fine with me but that's about all I trust the government with.
But I would strongly object to paying an extortionate price for it.
I've carried an ID card most of my life and it's never bothered me.
Reply:not really bothered..because...
if you are underage and you still get served then you wont have to show your ID
if you are the legal age..then you have your ID to prove it..
Reply:I simply don't see the point of them when we already have photocard driving licences and photo passports.
It is also worrying that our data will be kept in yet another place where no doubt at some point in the future it will be lost and abused.
Reply:They will cost a lot of money but won't deter terrorists or other criminals. Not a good idea, I'd say.
What do you think of this idea? If you are for it - why? And if you are against - why? And if you are not bothered either way - why?
ID cards. What are your objections %26amp; why?
Normally I would not object to ID cards, I used to have on when in the RAF. and I have to carry one for work normally.
But the governments ID card is more than that, it holds too much details about you that the governement cannot be trusted with and it will sell the details off to people. Just take a look a car number plate recognition, they now employ private companies who have access to your details. Is this right, who vets the people who work there? because some of them are low paid and I am sure could easly be bribed.
Secondly the government wants us all to pay for the ID card ourselves, thus it becomes a Tax and thats just not fair.
Reply:There is no point having them. What good do they seriously think they can do? They have had ID cards in South Africa for 40+ years and they have to biggest crime rate in the world. Its a money making swindle.
Reply:I would not be against a card which had my name, date of birth and a photo. Any more than that and it gets dangerous. The government want to charge alot of money for these cards and charge more if anyone's circumstances change or they move addresses - or jobs etc.
I do not trust this government with all my info in one place and certainly do not want it on public display. How long before our medical information would be sold to insurance companies, religious beliefs, educational standards etc. Strangers will know more about me than my immediate family. On the government's website it states that these ID cards would not have to carried all the time - but when will this change? When the government realise they can get more money when people lose them? I also feel that information put on the cards will be that which the highest bidder wants rather than what is necessary.
Reply:we don't have them here, but I would think they would be useful, my sister has one and as she doesn't have a passport, it's useful to travel to Ireland..
Reply:I am against ID cards because I would not trust a member of Whitehall or Government to change my light bulbs never mind hold details on my identity. They could not run a bath! By the time they get round to organising the ID cards the technology will be out of date and it will only be the mainstream of society that will suffer for it. The "underworld" WILL find a way round it - as usual, and the over liberal do-gooders will find an excuse as to why those infringing the ID rules should not be prosecuted or penalised. Information, like people, may be and will be, bought and sold!
Reply:I already carry retired US Marine Corps ID,, driver's license , pilot license passport ND visa what the hell for just waste of time and surely it will have some option to be scanned by SAM
Reply:The one objection that I have is based on the security, or lack thereof in regard to the information on the cards and that held by the government in regard to myself. After all they haven't got such a good record in information protection !
Reply:I'm against it because this government allowed the screwups causing the paranoia that prompted a deman for these damn cards in the first place!
If they wouldn't allow companies to hire illegal immigrants, immigrants who didn't renew their work visas, and would've listened when the FBI and CIA told them there are known terrorists trying to board 747s, the country wouldn't be in this mess overseas or in recession at home.
Reply:Here in Spain we all have to carry them .
They are very useful as proof of identity . (Particularly when shopping !)
I have nothing to hide and have no problem with them.
They prevent a certain amount of identity theft. Nobody can use your credit cards without them. Every card transaction here requires proof of identity. I can´t believ it in the U.K. that I can use my card freely and am not asked to show any other documentation. I could have just found that card on the floor!
I had cheques stolen and cashed with a forged name and false signature in the UK. That wouldn´t happen here.
People are against them because they are something new and different. THey are a good idea in my experience.
edit:
No they won´t prevent gross acts of terrorism but they will stop a huge amount of petty crime.And the cost of that adds up.
Reply:I am for it in principle, but I don't trust those in power to keep my personal details secure.
Reply:I'm not against the principle. ID cards are widespread and common all over the world.
The governments appraoch of trying to "sell" ID cards to the nation as a means of preventing terrorism is a load of cobblers, if you ask me. I do however believe they will be helpful in dealing with criminality on a much lower level.
I am concerned about the cost and practicalities of implementing a national identity card. The recent governmental departments problems with information security are a concern too.
Reply:Totally against it. The idea comes from Europe
and it is just to bring the U.K. in line with Europe.
It can be forged like everything else, so how safe does that make u feel.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3...
The government is not so sure now either. lol.
Reply:I think that this is a great idea.
as long as they have you D O B on as i am sick of being ID and carrying a passport (i don't drive!) is too risky
Reply:Against it. It's another scheme to control people, not to mention a money-making deal.
I've carried an ID card for years. It's called a drivers license and has all the info that is needed. Anything other than my name, address and date of birth is nobody's business but mine.
Some credit card companies are putting microchips in the cards. I'm calling Visa to request one without it.
Reply:In principle I have no objection, although no one has yet explained how it will prevent illegal immigration, benefit fraud and the like. My big objection is that if the government want us to carry it, THEY should pay for it, not impose it and expect us to pay fpr the privilege. Anyhow, given this government's record on "protecting" personal data, how can we trust them?
Reply:I'm going to laugh at the government system from a far. If they send me a card to where I live now I'll throw it away as I'm sure no one will fly to Japan to check if I kept it. The ID card is another waste of taxpayers money by a government who can't think anything through properly. When I was a child I kind of liked my country. Now I have been driven from it by incompetence. I could vote for a different government but they are all useless in the long term anyway. It's better to go elsewhere as far as I'm concerned.
Reply:Im definetly not for it, because there is NO evidence that ID cards actually help track terrorists or reduce immigration, the ID card is an oppertunity for the government to throw away money on what is essentially is a document meant to do the same job as passports, and which will fail. The government needs to adress the issue of how illegal immigrants and terrorists get into the country, for which i would have gladly supported them spending money, and adress the issue at the root, rather than jus buy everyone an id card.
Reply:I have no objections to carrying an ID. card but i will not pay £140 [the current estimated price] for the privilege
Reply:I don't have any objections because having only just turned 18, I know how annoying it is to not have any ID to prove your age. Despite not yet learning to drive, my best option was to pay £40 for a driving licence. ID cards would also be useful where you would need to show a passport or something because some people don't have a driving licence or passport. However, for all the benefits they might bring, I will not buy one at the expected cost which I heard could be as much as £300 as that is beyond rediculous. I moaned about my passsport being over £70!
Reply:I won't be carrying one. I haven't committed any crimes, so why should I be treated like a criminal?
As a previous poster says, Spain has ID cards. But they didn't prevent the Madrid train bombings.
Reply:against it because its a waste of money, another step towards a big brother state and i don't see how they will prevent illegal immigrants coming in
Reply:I have no objection to ID cards, as long as they work and deliver the level of security that is needed. When other similar questions have been asked there is a lot of objection on the grounds that it is an infringement on our freedom. Well some people should wake up and realise that the freedom that we hold so dear is the problem. These freedoms have to be protected from the unscrupulous individuals that want to steal your identity or hide within our society.
Recently someone that we know was arrested for child porn offences, the person was innocent and was eventually cleared of the charges. The FBI had followed an electronic paper trail to this person, because , unknown to them, their identity had been stolen. The person who was falsely arrested lives in the UK, the FBI had become involved and notified British authorities. This could happen to anyone as our freedoms are so easily exploited by criminals and terrorists.
If ID cards will help prevent this kind of incident then we should have them, regardless of costs. Anyone who objects to the principle of defending our freedom and keeping our society secure must have something to hide.
Maybe an ID card with several points of reference is the answer, and any photograph should be held on a data base, so that if the card is scanned the person checking the ID will be able to see if the card holder is genuine. If administered correctly this could be a very effective system and almost impossible to forge, becuase the data will not be held on the card, but on a national data base.
Reply:I dont have a problem with it at all.
Reply:gross waste of money. are the police going to arrest millions of people for not having it on them. no. but it gives the police an excuse to victimise whoever they so please. so if they dont like your face you get thrown in a cell with some psycho.
think it can't happen. look what happened to that poor asian guy they threw into a cell with a known racial killer. yes the guy was murdered in the police cell. that was only a couple of years ago.
Reply:I am totally against ID cards, because I would not trust a member of Whitehall or Government, to change my socks never mind hold details on my identity on a national computer data base.
Reply:Mmm. A photo ID card which contained the same information as your passport and driving licence would be fine with me but that's about all I trust the government with.
But I would strongly object to paying an extortionate price for it.
I've carried an ID card most of my life and it's never bothered me.
Reply:not really bothered..because...
if you are underage and you still get served then you wont have to show your ID
if you are the legal age..then you have your ID to prove it..
Reply:I simply don't see the point of them when we already have photocard driving licences and photo passports.
It is also worrying that our data will be kept in yet another place where no doubt at some point in the future it will be lost and abused.
Reply:They will cost a lot of money but won't deter terrorists or other criminals. Not a good idea, I'd say.
When ID cards are introduced will illegal immigrants be issued with them?
As others unanimously said no card for illegals. By the way, no bus ride home. I say any illegals from the USA, UK and all colonies need to be put on one way plane rides to Afghanistan, Serbia, or Iraq. Let them figure out where to go from there.
When ID cards are introduced will illegal immigrants be issued with them?
Don't say 'When'. This government might be voted out by then.
An immigrant can't identify themselves so they can't get an ID card. So there's no point us getting one, cos we have to identify ourselves to get one. Get it? If we've already identified ourself, whats the point in an ID card?
Reply:they shouldn't be
Reply:They get called "asylum seekers" they get free cards while we pay for them. They then get free accommodation and benefits.
If we put them all back on planes or boats we would end up paying for them to be shipped off home just for more to come here.
Reply:Well if they are illegal, then the government won't know of them and therefore won't be able to issue them an ID card!!!
Reply:If they are illegal immigrants the authorities would not have the information to produce an I.D. card
Reply:Only to identify them for the bus ride home
Reply:I HOPE NOT!!!! Unless there are British Citizens
Reply:Make it alot easier, most will go home when they can't work without ID's
And of course make them alot easier to find without ID's also.
And so it takes years , it took years to get them here, I have time to wait.
Reply:I think that when you apply for an ID card you have to present some identification first, such as birth certificates, SSN, voters cards what ever, if you try to pass off a fraudulent one then they got you right where you should be.
Reply:Now you're just being silly...
If they are illegal - they have no 'ID' - so HOW can they get an 'ID' CARD?...
Actually it will probably generate a whole new "Black Market" (no pun intended) of illegals paying mega bucks to get an ID card that makes them APPEAR to be legal citizens!
Reply:I think you've rather missed the point.
Reply:I'll give you three guesses
Reply:I don't get it. I don't like immigrants anyhow. Except European ones. But they usually have bad teeth.
Reply:No. The main point of the ID card scheme is that you will be able to prove you are legally allowed to reside in the UK. I have dealings with immigration in my job and there are many people who simply disappear and never report back to immigration to be deported (wonder why?!) At the minute, if these people are found again, it becomes hard for the authorities to deport them, because there is no national scheme to tell them who they are. An ID card scheme would show that this person was legal or not and if not he could quickly be forcibly deported.
Reply:if you want the first implementation of slavery to go ahead fine go along with it .your answer is ridiculous i dont mean to be rude but there exscuse for the bloody thing is imagrants ,we have open boarders on purpose .the bloody 7/7 bombings dont add up .then they pass anti terrorism laws which affect us .we are being shafted the world banks the illuminati ,the new world order control our governments .we will be liveing in a world wide modern version of nazi germany in 5 to 10 years .then the people will be enslaved they will draft us use us as canon foder to invade countrys that are not under the rule of the new world order,middle east maybe?do some reasearch or look up terrorstorm ,alex jones ,ludicrous diversions 7/7 ,all on google video watch them then do your own research .ID cards are just the start.WAKE UP people your future relys on it.also prison planet site.
Reply:No but I'm sure they can get their hands on forgeries
Reply:I got a scare when I fell of my bike. My mom told me to rub Madurma for kids on it every day, to help the scare heal faster and smoother. Its the fist and only scare product, just for kids!
When ID cards are introduced will illegal immigrants be issued with them?
Don't say 'When'. This government might be voted out by then.
An immigrant can't identify themselves so they can't get an ID card. So there's no point us getting one, cos we have to identify ourselves to get one. Get it? If we've already identified ourself, whats the point in an ID card?
Reply:they shouldn't be
Reply:They get called "asylum seekers" they get free cards while we pay for them. They then get free accommodation and benefits.
If we put them all back on planes or boats we would end up paying for them to be shipped off home just for more to come here.
Reply:Well if they are illegal, then the government won't know of them and therefore won't be able to issue them an ID card!!!
Reply:If they are illegal immigrants the authorities would not have the information to produce an I.D. card
Reply:Only to identify them for the bus ride home
Reply:I HOPE NOT!!!! Unless there are British Citizens
Reply:Make it alot easier, most will go home when they can't work without ID's
And of course make them alot easier to find without ID's also.
And so it takes years , it took years to get them here, I have time to wait.
Reply:I think that when you apply for an ID card you have to present some identification first, such as birth certificates, SSN, voters cards what ever, if you try to pass off a fraudulent one then they got you right where you should be.
Reply:Now you're just being silly...
If they are illegal - they have no 'ID' - so HOW can they get an 'ID' CARD?...
Actually it will probably generate a whole new "Black Market" (no pun intended) of illegals paying mega bucks to get an ID card that makes them APPEAR to be legal citizens!
Reply:I think you've rather missed the point.
Reply:I'll give you three guesses
Reply:I don't get it. I don't like immigrants anyhow. Except European ones. But they usually have bad teeth.
Reply:No. The main point of the ID card scheme is that you will be able to prove you are legally allowed to reside in the UK. I have dealings with immigration in my job and there are many people who simply disappear and never report back to immigration to be deported (wonder why?!) At the minute, if these people are found again, it becomes hard for the authorities to deport them, because there is no national scheme to tell them who they are. An ID card scheme would show that this person was legal or not and if not he could quickly be forcibly deported.
Reply:if you want the first implementation of slavery to go ahead fine go along with it .your answer is ridiculous i dont mean to be rude but there exscuse for the bloody thing is imagrants ,we have open boarders on purpose .the bloody 7/7 bombings dont add up .then they pass anti terrorism laws which affect us .we are being shafted the world banks the illuminati ,the new world order control our governments .we will be liveing in a world wide modern version of nazi germany in 5 to 10 years .then the people will be enslaved they will draft us use us as canon foder to invade countrys that are not under the rule of the new world order,middle east maybe?do some reasearch or look up terrorstorm ,alex jones ,ludicrous diversions 7/7 ,all on google video watch them then do your own research .ID cards are just the start.WAKE UP people your future relys on it.also prison planet site.
Reply:No but I'm sure they can get their hands on forgeries
Reply:I got a scare when I fell of my bike. My mom told me to rub Madurma for kids on it every day, to help the scare heal faster and smoother. Its the fist and only scare product, just for kids!
Introduction to ID cards in the UK?
11. Do you think by using a ID card you can save time at passport control? Yes No Not sure
12. Do you think ID card can assist in law enforcement?
Yes No Not sure
13. Do you mind if I ask you, your age?
Thank you for taking the time out to fill in this questionnaire.
Introduction to ID cards in the UK?
11 - No
12 - yes
13 - No
Reply:Yes
Yes
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Reply:11. NO - it only takes a split second anyway.
12. YES - allowing databases to be kept on everyone.
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Reply:i would like to get involved with aposing this maddness.
It will save time in passport control only if they have are autmoated and have more turntiles
will not assist law infrcmnt. I could get around every scheme they put up
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12. Do you think ID card can assist in law enforcement?
Yes No Not sure
13. Do you mind if I ask you, your age?
Thank you for taking the time out to fill in this questionnaire.
Introduction to ID cards in the UK?
11 - No
12 - yes
13 - No
Reply:Yes
Yes
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Reply:11. NO - it only takes a split second anyway.
12. YES - allowing databases to be kept on everyone.
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Reply:i would like to get involved with aposing this maddness.
It will save time in passport control only if they have are autmoated and have more turntiles
will not assist law infrcmnt. I could get around every scheme they put up
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Does the navy still issue ID cards to inactive reservists?
If yes can you please provide some info on where to go get it and what i can use it for?
Does the navy still issue ID cards to inactive reservists?
No. When you are IRR, you have essentially the same privileges that a civilian does. If you want an ID card you have to be a drilling reservist, or just plain old active duty.
Reply:Yes you are eligible for it. All you need to do is go to your nearest branch personnel office to get photographed and get issued with a military ID. With this, you are eligible to go to the PX and Commissary as well as access anything on base. heck, you are still in the military but just not drilling. You can also get a base sticker for your car so you won't be stopped and get inspected every time you go through the gate.
You also have access to taking CLEP and DANTES exams in the education center inside the base. You are in the military still.
my fish
Does the navy still issue ID cards to inactive reservists?
No. When you are IRR, you have essentially the same privileges that a civilian does. If you want an ID card you have to be a drilling reservist, or just plain old active duty.
Reply:Yes you are eligible for it. All you need to do is go to your nearest branch personnel office to get photographed and get issued with a military ID. With this, you are eligible to go to the PX and Commissary as well as access anything on base. heck, you are still in the military but just not drilling. You can also get a base sticker for your car so you won't be stopped and get inspected every time you go through the gate.
You also have access to taking CLEP and DANTES exams in the education center inside the base. You are in the military still.
my fish
Does anyone else consider National ID cards for Americans a bit like the 666 mark of the anti-Christ?
It is believed that the anti-christ will one day rule the world, and demand we all bare the mark of the devil. Remember that if you refuse the mark, you may not purchase food, rent a place to live, own anything, and won't be allowed to commune with the population. Do you think Hillary Clinton's idea cards are the same? Is she the anti-Christ trying to change America into being controlled, and lose their freedoms? She tried it with her hubby Bill when he was President, but Americans shot that down, thank God! However, as in Universal Health-Care (which doesn't work) I am positive, if she is elected, she will bring the idea back, and try to enforce it, against the will of the people. What say you? 666?
Does anyone else consider National ID cards for Americans a bit like the 666 mark of the anti-Christ?
You are right, and that is exactly what the ID is about, the form of the 666, actually called 'the mark of the beast". As for as Hillary being the anti christ, and as much as I can not stand her and Bill, I do not think she is the anti christ. But, I do know, she is and wants to set up the US to have to comply with the ID and her Healthcare scam , like the one she tryed to get passed while Bill was still in office, was written like a person with no regards for anyone and certainly not good for Americans or any one else for that matter.
Hillary manipulating the public with the slogan
"We're doing it for the children"
In 1994, HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly-in violation of federal law...The plan prescribed some eye-popping maximum fines:
$5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan
$5,000 for failing to pay the premiums on time
15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy
$10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork
$50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment
$100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings
When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America." When a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." As for privacy, forget it: Her plan would have required people to carry national identification cards that embedded confidential patient information on computer chips.
If you think she will not force this ID and healthcare, disarm us, so we can not protect ourself, your wrong. Anyone is better than a Clinton, people seem to forget , she is not Bill Clinton. She is a woman who wants to gain power over ever individual from the time they are born until she decides they are to old and have them disposed of. Wake up America!!! this woman is not good for America.
Reply:If you think about it we already had a mark a long time ago and our children are required now to get one at birth. The Social Security #
Reply:I do believe the ID cards could be the third '6' behind the driver's license and social security card. I do believe hillary has the soul of the anti-Christ.
I do not believe she will betray the pharmaceutical companies who are currently supporting her campaign by actually initiating UHC.
She is using the issue as a come-on just like she did before and she will not deliver.
I cannot believe people are even falling for this AGAIN.
Reply:Ahhhhh , YEAH !!
I don't care who proposes it , I'm a Million percent against it .
And ya know , (shakes head) we are in exactly the right position that someone would propose it under the guise of protecting us all from identity theft . Think about it . How many millions of identities have been stolen in recent years from major credit card companies and insurance companies . Add banks and other financial institutions to that list while you're at it too .
Read my last question (prepare ye the way of the Lord) . Go ahead , give it a read . That is only a portion of the things 'coincidentally' happening today .
Of course I don't know the day nor the hour , but I believe the time is nearly here . Literally perhaps , right around the corner .
Father forgive us of our sins . Amen .
Reply:No! National ID cards are not the mark of the devil...that is ridiculous!
Reply:I didn't think that anyone could say something sooooooo bad about Hillary that I wouldn't agree with it. But the anti-Christ "might" have gone a little too far.
Although, I DO have concerns about the Big Brotheresque road that we continue heading down.
Reply:The National ID card is already a law. The burden is up to the individual states to implement it. You can thank Bush for this though not a Clinton.According to scripture the Anti Christ is supposed to come from the Middle East and bring peace to the earth in the beginning, too many conservatives hate Clinton for that to ever happen and she wasn't born in the ME. I think it is safe to say that Hillary Clinton is not the Anti Christ.
Reply:no, but I consider it wrong, and won't be taking one.
Funny how you can take an initiative from the Bush administration, blamed it on Hillary and bash her. You're the reason I don't respect Christians like you, you're so blinded by you're faith Bush can do no wrong, and when he does you blame it on someone else.
I know you, your question says it all.
You're a Christian, most likely evangelical, only some of them(read you) are blind enough to blame bush's failures on Hillary.
and apparently you're also a liar, Isn't it a sin to deny God?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
Guess I know you better than you know yourself.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
Reply:Not necessarily like the 666 mark, but I get where your coming from. I am completely against the Nat. ID Card. What ever happened to States? More and more, states are being left behind and forgotton. Much to the detriment of our government and culture.
http://www.dryflypolitics.com
Reply:its a card not a number tatood to your forehead
Reply:I don't know about it being the mark of the beast, just yet, but it does seem like a waste of money when passports and state IDs do the same exact thing.
all they have to do is form a nationwide database that links all of the state IDs together, which they have already been working on, so it shouldn't cost that much more.
It is starting to seem like they want us to carry our citizenship papers like the soviets used to do.
Reply:yes it is similar.. ans anti christ is prabably gunna be from the U.S. but its a bit above hiliary to have 7 years of world peace... and i dont think he has the intelect or power to start the biblical apacalips either
Reply:I consider the National ID just one more way to hand the government more control. I'm apposed to it!
Reply:I'll give the "correct" Yahoo answer: Yes, ID cards are wrong. Everyone should be able to come here without restriction and vote as many times as they wish. Bush is evil.
Reply:*GASP*
You surely aren't THAT paranoid are you??????
Y
Reply:Most believe 666 was the greek spelling of the current Roman Emperor, Nero. Greek letters also served as numbers, and many believe it was mistranslated.
That the Anti-Christ refered to was actually alive in the form of Nero.
Just an interesting side note.
Isn't a Social Security Card a National ID card and number?
Reply:I think a bio metric ID card might be a good idea/ Not some crazy thing with tracking technology but a card with that connects a person by DNA to info in a computer system so that illegals cannot tamper with them. Having been in the Military which means giving DNA samples, I am not worried about the conspiracies. As long as they do not have tracking technology there is nothing to fear. It should be simply drivers license or passports, no other purpose
Reply:National ID cards.... like a passport
..ONLY ---issue with USER generated PINS...
I don't buy the Antichrist bit but do think that The US needs to rethink the idea RATIONALLY
...Most other developed countries can identify their citizens.
...Too many in US Chose to fly under the radar to "game" various systems avoid penalties and laws.
...would insure that ONLY US citizens vote
...would quickly verify to law enforcement an individuals "status"--i.e. US citizen/authorized foreign national
...Many agencies,(judicial/law enforcement to name a few IRS, SSA) would become more efficient.
...Social service programs would have a quick way to verify recipients "elgibility" ..(subdized housing/fuel/....)
...Employers/bank etc could get instant verification (ID valid)
(applicant enters PIN on secure terminal )
...Identity theft would be more difficult.
The Gov ALREADY uses SSAN (social security #) which business/employers/banks/schools.. etc have all co-opted as "required" info.! SSAN's are easily misused.
Many of the States- despite Fed $$ and directives-DO NOT have a data base of their birth/death records-(state legislators seem to find other uses for the fed $ ..). Guess why dead people and same person votes twice or maybe more times vote in every election?...
...A RATIONAL approach well thought out, would NOT empower "Big Brother" and could be voluntary...(note citizens have the "right" to vote / the Government is REQUIRED to verify Voting elgibility....many citizens choose not to vote which is also their" right")
Your assertion that "the mark" would result in inability to purchase food,other items is simply disingenuous and designed to highten paranoia.
As for Hillary..she is a socialist who would need a means to "manage" the population" and declare who/what would be elgible for elite status.
Reply:something like a social security number?
Reply:Don't let fear cause you to overreact. We will get through it. Peace
Reply:She's not the anti- crist, just anti- american.
Reply:I don't. I think it would be a lot better than state issued cards. That way it would be harder to make fake ones. Like... they could make it like they made the money, and won't tell anyone what it's made of.
Reply:Better burn your state driver's license, social security card, medicare card, and passport first thing tomorrow. Just to be safe.
Reply:George Bush is the antichrist. He has used religion to manipulate the citizens of the US for his own personal gain.
Reply:The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Run for your lives. All democrats in our government are the Anti-Christ.
Reply:Nope, but I think your a weirdo with nothing to do but make up elaborate fantasy's. Paranoia for certain.
Does anyone else consider National ID cards for Americans a bit like the 666 mark of the anti-Christ?
You are right, and that is exactly what the ID is about, the form of the 666, actually called 'the mark of the beast". As for as Hillary being the anti christ, and as much as I can not stand her and Bill, I do not think she is the anti christ. But, I do know, she is and wants to set up the US to have to comply with the ID and her Healthcare scam , like the one she tryed to get passed while Bill was still in office, was written like a person with no regards for anyone and certainly not good for Americans or any one else for that matter.
Hillary manipulating the public with the slogan
"We're doing it for the children"
In 1994, HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton) set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly-in violation of federal law...The plan prescribed some eye-popping maximum fines:
$5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan
$5,000 for failing to pay the premiums on time
15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy
$10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork
$50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment
$100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings
When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I can't be responsible for every undercapitalized small business in America." When a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." As for privacy, forget it: Her plan would have required people to carry national identification cards that embedded confidential patient information on computer chips.
If you think she will not force this ID and healthcare, disarm us, so we can not protect ourself, your wrong. Anyone is better than a Clinton, people seem to forget , she is not Bill Clinton. She is a woman who wants to gain power over ever individual from the time they are born until she decides they are to old and have them disposed of. Wake up America!!! this woman is not good for America.
Reply:If you think about it we already had a mark a long time ago and our children are required now to get one at birth. The Social Security #
Reply:I do believe the ID cards could be the third '6' behind the driver's license and social security card. I do believe hillary has the soul of the anti-Christ.
I do not believe she will betray the pharmaceutical companies who are currently supporting her campaign by actually initiating UHC.
She is using the issue as a come-on just like she did before and she will not deliver.
I cannot believe people are even falling for this AGAIN.
Reply:Ahhhhh , YEAH !!
I don't care who proposes it , I'm a Million percent against it .
And ya know , (shakes head) we are in exactly the right position that someone would propose it under the guise of protecting us all from identity theft . Think about it . How many millions of identities have been stolen in recent years from major credit card companies and insurance companies . Add banks and other financial institutions to that list while you're at it too .
Read my last question (prepare ye the way of the Lord) . Go ahead , give it a read . That is only a portion of the things 'coincidentally' happening today .
Of course I don't know the day nor the hour , but I believe the time is nearly here . Literally perhaps , right around the corner .
Father forgive us of our sins . Amen .
Reply:No! National ID cards are not the mark of the devil...that is ridiculous!
Reply:I didn't think that anyone could say something sooooooo bad about Hillary that I wouldn't agree with it. But the anti-Christ "might" have gone a little too far.
Although, I DO have concerns about the Big Brotheresque road that we continue heading down.
Reply:The National ID card is already a law. The burden is up to the individual states to implement it. You can thank Bush for this though not a Clinton.According to scripture the Anti Christ is supposed to come from the Middle East and bring peace to the earth in the beginning, too many conservatives hate Clinton for that to ever happen and she wasn't born in the ME. I think it is safe to say that Hillary Clinton is not the Anti Christ.
Reply:no, but I consider it wrong, and won't be taking one.
Funny how you can take an initiative from the Bush administration, blamed it on Hillary and bash her. You're the reason I don't respect Christians like you, you're so blinded by you're faith Bush can do no wrong, and when he does you blame it on someone else.
I know you, your question says it all.
You're a Christian, most likely evangelical, only some of them(read you) are blind enough to blame bush's failures on Hillary.
and apparently you're also a liar, Isn't it a sin to deny God?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
Guess I know you better than you know yourself.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
Reply:Not necessarily like the 666 mark, but I get where your coming from. I am completely against the Nat. ID Card. What ever happened to States? More and more, states are being left behind and forgotton. Much to the detriment of our government and culture.
http://www.dryflypolitics.com
Reply:its a card not a number tatood to your forehead
Reply:I don't know about it being the mark of the beast, just yet, but it does seem like a waste of money when passports and state IDs do the same exact thing.
all they have to do is form a nationwide database that links all of the state IDs together, which they have already been working on, so it shouldn't cost that much more.
It is starting to seem like they want us to carry our citizenship papers like the soviets used to do.
Reply:yes it is similar.. ans anti christ is prabably gunna be from the U.S. but its a bit above hiliary to have 7 years of world peace... and i dont think he has the intelect or power to start the biblical apacalips either
Reply:I consider the National ID just one more way to hand the government more control. I'm apposed to it!
Reply:I'll give the "correct" Yahoo answer: Yes, ID cards are wrong. Everyone should be able to come here without restriction and vote as many times as they wish. Bush is evil.
Reply:*GASP*
You surely aren't THAT paranoid are you??????
Y
Reply:Most believe 666 was the greek spelling of the current Roman Emperor, Nero. Greek letters also served as numbers, and many believe it was mistranslated.
That the Anti-Christ refered to was actually alive in the form of Nero.
Just an interesting side note.
Isn't a Social Security Card a National ID card and number?
Reply:I think a bio metric ID card might be a good idea/ Not some crazy thing with tracking technology but a card with that connects a person by DNA to info in a computer system so that illegals cannot tamper with them. Having been in the Military which means giving DNA samples, I am not worried about the conspiracies. As long as they do not have tracking technology there is nothing to fear. It should be simply drivers license or passports, no other purpose
Reply:National ID cards.... like a passport
..ONLY ---issue with USER generated PINS...
I don't buy the Antichrist bit but do think that The US needs to rethink the idea RATIONALLY
...Most other developed countries can identify their citizens.
...Too many in US Chose to fly under the radar to "game" various systems avoid penalties and laws.
...would insure that ONLY US citizens vote
...would quickly verify to law enforcement an individuals "status"--i.e. US citizen/authorized foreign national
...Many agencies,(judicial/law enforcement to name a few IRS, SSA) would become more efficient.
...Social service programs would have a quick way to verify recipients "elgibility" ..(subdized housing/fuel/....)
...Employers/bank etc could get instant verification (ID valid)
(applicant enters PIN on secure terminal )
...Identity theft would be more difficult.
The Gov ALREADY uses SSAN (social security #) which business/employers/banks/schools.. etc have all co-opted as "required" info.! SSAN's are easily misused.
Many of the States- despite Fed $$ and directives-DO NOT have a data base of their birth/death records-(state legislators seem to find other uses for the fed $ ..). Guess why dead people and same person votes twice or maybe more times vote in every election?...
...A RATIONAL approach well thought out, would NOT empower "Big Brother" and could be voluntary...(note citizens have the "right" to vote / the Government is REQUIRED to verify Voting elgibility....many citizens choose not to vote which is also their" right")
Your assertion that "the mark" would result in inability to purchase food,other items is simply disingenuous and designed to highten paranoia.
As for Hillary..she is a socialist who would need a means to "manage" the population" and declare who/what would be elgible for elite status.
Reply:something like a social security number?
Reply:Don't let fear cause you to overreact. We will get through it. Peace
Reply:She's not the anti- crist, just anti- american.
Reply:I don't. I think it would be a lot better than state issued cards. That way it would be harder to make fake ones. Like... they could make it like they made the money, and won't tell anyone what it's made of.
Reply:Better burn your state driver's license, social security card, medicare card, and passport first thing tomorrow. Just to be safe.
Reply:George Bush is the antichrist. He has used religion to manipulate the citizens of the US for his own personal gain.
Reply:The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Run for your lives. All democrats in our government are the Anti-Christ.
Reply:Nope, but I think your a weirdo with nothing to do but make up elaborate fantasy's. Paranoia for certain.
Why do state governments keep trying to issue illegal aliens ID cards?
These states are run by liberals and it is the liberal's policy to do everything they can for the illegals so that the illegals will become citizens and then they will vote for Dimocrats. Once they get drivers licenses, they will be able to illegally vote in elections and that's what Eliot Shitzer in NY was counting on. I consider any governor who gives drivers licenses to illegal aliens to be a traitor to his country, and to be in violation of federal law by aiding and abetting illegal aliens.
Why do state governments keep trying to issue illegal aliens ID cards?
It would appear that it is just another attempt at pandering to them. What they should be doing is enforcing the law not giving out freebies or ID cards. The safety issue is just more government BS.
Reply:Because it's better and safer for the government and its citizens to keep track of who's living in their streets and to make streets safer with fully licensed drivers and identified people.
Reply:From what I understand they only want to give out licenses as a safety precaution. They want illegal immigrants to know the rules of the road and pass a driving test. Basically they're saying that no matter what we'll have illegal citizens, so they may as well be safe.
Personally I don't see how people live here illegally so easily. They are in essence fugitives, so giving them any additional rights seems absurd to me. Would you advocate giving licenses and health care to wanted bank robbers? Of course not, you'd throw them in jail as soon as you discovered their identity. Yes it's a shame when you break up a family by deporting someone, but it's their fault for breaking the law. If you want a normal life you have to live on the right side of the law, it's as simple as that.
Reply:So that way the authorities know who is in this country. Not to mention when any crime happens first thing they go to is to look for state IDs.
Reply:ID cards being issued is just a one of many done by the gov't to make sure illegal aliens stay in the US.
the gov't only SAYS that they are tring to fight the illegal alien problem. that is why each time the make a law or do anything about it, they make it s big deal. on the media and ect. to make ppl think that the gov't is actually doing something.
but the gov;t isnt doing anything. illegal alliens are what makes the economy go. without illegal alliens to do the low paid low wage dirt jobs, the economy would not go. which crazy american is willing to work as a bus boy in a resutrant for roughly 4$ an hour withno tips and benfits???? who is willing to do do dirty garden work???
no one.
it all comes down to money. if we lost illegal alliens, its going to cost more that to send them back.
not to bash the illegal alliens, but it is true. its not the illegal alliens problem. it is the gov'ts
Reply:for record purposes, easy way of tracking and monitoring not just for population record but for other factors like public services given to the government's citizens vis-a-vis non-citizen.
Reply:for "awareness" purposes and for auto Insurance accountability
Why do state governments keep trying to issue illegal aliens ID cards?
It would appear that it is just another attempt at pandering to them. What they should be doing is enforcing the law not giving out freebies or ID cards. The safety issue is just more government BS.
Reply:Because it's better and safer for the government and its citizens to keep track of who's living in their streets and to make streets safer with fully licensed drivers and identified people.
Reply:From what I understand they only want to give out licenses as a safety precaution. They want illegal immigrants to know the rules of the road and pass a driving test. Basically they're saying that no matter what we'll have illegal citizens, so they may as well be safe.
Personally I don't see how people live here illegally so easily. They are in essence fugitives, so giving them any additional rights seems absurd to me. Would you advocate giving licenses and health care to wanted bank robbers? Of course not, you'd throw them in jail as soon as you discovered their identity. Yes it's a shame when you break up a family by deporting someone, but it's their fault for breaking the law. If you want a normal life you have to live on the right side of the law, it's as simple as that.
Reply:So that way the authorities know who is in this country. Not to mention when any crime happens first thing they go to is to look for state IDs.
Reply:ID cards being issued is just a one of many done by the gov't to make sure illegal aliens stay in the US.
the gov't only SAYS that they are tring to fight the illegal alien problem. that is why each time the make a law or do anything about it, they make it s big deal. on the media and ect. to make ppl think that the gov't is actually doing something.
but the gov;t isnt doing anything. illegal alliens are what makes the economy go. without illegal alliens to do the low paid low wage dirt jobs, the economy would not go. which crazy american is willing to work as a bus boy in a resutrant for roughly 4$ an hour withno tips and benfits???? who is willing to do do dirty garden work???
no one.
it all comes down to money. if we lost illegal alliens, its going to cost more that to send them back.
not to bash the illegal alliens, but it is true. its not the illegal alliens problem. it is the gov'ts
Reply:for record purposes, easy way of tracking and monitoring not just for population record but for other factors like public services given to the government's citizens vis-a-vis non-citizen.
Reply:for "awareness" purposes and for auto Insurance accountability
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
What is this card supposed to do? How does this card affect illegals and US citizens?What's the real reason for this card?Is it a good thing or a bad thing? How much are US taxpayers paying for this?
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
It is bad.It is a police state measure that will eliminate the few privacies we have left.http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nanc...
Reply:people want the same free america that we always had that worked so well.
americans dont want to have to hear "papers please"....when they are going from one place to another within the country....taking the train to go to work or buying gasoline....
They dont want to feel like they are living in nazi germany.
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
It is bad.It is a police state measure that will eliminate the few privacies we have left.http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nanc...
Reply:people want the same free america that we always had that worked so well.
americans dont want to have to hear "papers please"....when they are going from one place to another within the country....taking the train to go to work or buying gasoline....
They dont want to feel like they are living in nazi germany.
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
What is this card supposed to do? How does this card affect illegals and US citizens?What's the real reason for this card?Is it a good thing or a bad thing? How much are US taxpayers paying for this?
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
A real ID card would prove that you are a US citizen. Naturally, illegals could not get and use one..so they can't use any service where you'd need to show an ID.
Right now ID's are a tiny piece of plastic...even high school kids can make fake ones. Real ID's would be copy/fake proof.
You need a social security card to get a job, legally. Though it's so easy to make a fake one or steal one. Real ID's would put a stop to that.
And real ID's would make it easy to round up the illegals.....cop pulls someone over and they have no ID and say something like "No cerro, el passo delo''...snap, he is deported.
If they go the full route of a biometric activated computer chip type ID(so the card is only activated if you hold it in your hand) then it would put a stop to identity theft.
And of course the poor..um..hapless people would suffer too...as they are not quite..um..able enough to go and get the ID's the way normal citizens can. So the poor would not be able to get things that needed the ID. And the poor people would then be very sad.
Reply:Will illegals go in for ID cards? It could jsut be a sting by INS to deport them. Of course they won't. It's more posturing. We're paying way too much for even thinking that this is reasonable.
MOST US citizens already have some kind of ID. Drivers license, passport, something. They aren't that difficult to get. Making yet another ID mandatory seems rather ridiculous.
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What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
A real ID card would prove that you are a US citizen. Naturally, illegals could not get and use one..so they can't use any service where you'd need to show an ID.
Right now ID's are a tiny piece of plastic...even high school kids can make fake ones. Real ID's would be copy/fake proof.
You need a social security card to get a job, legally. Though it's so easy to make a fake one or steal one. Real ID's would put a stop to that.
And real ID's would make it easy to round up the illegals.....cop pulls someone over and they have no ID and say something like "No cerro, el passo delo''...snap, he is deported.
If they go the full route of a biometric activated computer chip type ID(so the card is only activated if you hold it in your hand) then it would put a stop to identity theft.
And of course the poor..um..hapless people would suffer too...as they are not quite..um..able enough to go and get the ID's the way normal citizens can. So the poor would not be able to get things that needed the ID. And the poor people would then be very sad.
Reply:Will illegals go in for ID cards? It could jsut be a sting by INS to deport them. Of course they won't. It's more posturing. We're paying way too much for even thinking that this is reasonable.
MOST US citizens already have some kind of ID. Drivers license, passport, something. They aren't that difficult to get. Making yet another ID mandatory seems rather ridiculous.
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ID cards???
I turn 18 tomorrow and was wondering whats the best form of age id, because i dont want to take my driving licence or passport out with me (incase i lose it)
ID cards???
A lot of town councils have special ID`s for those over 18 as proof of their age on licenced premises.
Happy birthday for tomorrow.
Reply:driving license is the best form.
Reply:Check with your county agency that issues drivers license. They can issue a state ID. You may want to call to ask what you need to bring. It may be something like a birth certificate, or they may be able to verify it by looking up your information from your drivers license.
The ID's are often issued to senior citizens who are no longer able to drive or people who are handicapped and can't drive for some reason and need a form of official ID.
It will look similar to a drivers license but the color may be different and it will be prominently marked state ID
Reply:Its driving license or passport I'm afraid.
When my son turned 18, he tried all them other ID's they give you at school and that the local council promotes and they refused to let him in anywhere because he didn't have driving licence or passport.
Reply:You didn't specify where you might be going that requires an ID. Most such places require a picture ID and some accept only drivers licenses or State issued ID cards.
Reply:Some times they have applacation in your newsagents
ID cards???
A lot of town councils have special ID`s for those over 18 as proof of their age on licenced premises.
Happy birthday for tomorrow.
Reply:driving license is the best form.
Reply:Check with your county agency that issues drivers license. They can issue a state ID. You may want to call to ask what you need to bring. It may be something like a birth certificate, or they may be able to verify it by looking up your information from your drivers license.
The ID's are often issued to senior citizens who are no longer able to drive or people who are handicapped and can't drive for some reason and need a form of official ID.
It will look similar to a drivers license but the color may be different and it will be prominently marked state ID
Reply:Its driving license or passport I'm afraid.
When my son turned 18, he tried all them other ID's they give you at school and that the local council promotes and they refused to let him in anywhere because he didn't have driving licence or passport.
Reply:You didn't specify where you might be going that requires an ID. Most such places require a picture ID and some accept only drivers licenses or State issued ID cards.
Reply:Some times they have applacation in your newsagents
What is the name of the machine that covers id cards?
I want a high resolution picture of this machine
What is the name of the machine that covers id cards?
It covers the cards in plastic.Is that the one ? if it is it is called a Laminator.You can buy them at office works or many different places.
Reply:its a laminator - they are quite reasonably priced
Reply:Laminator
Reply:same. a laminator.
Reply:The machine is called a laminating machine. You can find pictures by putting that into any search engine. Keep in mind there are different kinds of laminating, with different machines needed for each kind.
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What is the name of the machine that covers id cards?
It covers the cards in plastic.Is that the one ? if it is it is called a Laminator.You can buy them at office works or many different places.
Reply:its a laminator - they are quite reasonably priced
Reply:Laminator
Reply:same. a laminator.
Reply:The machine is called a laminating machine. You can find pictures by putting that into any search engine. Keep in mind there are different kinds of laminating, with different machines needed for each kind.
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