Saturday, November 19, 2011

If ID cards become compulsory in the UK, at your expense, will you rebel & refuse to get one?

ID cards could cost £200 to £300 and IT experts have stated that they will increase the risk of ID theft. Pilot ID cards have been hacked inside minutes.





They will also have RFIS technology, meaning your details can be read remotely without your knowledge and you will have your movements tracked and recorded on a central database.





Some people think a plastic card is the solution to terrorism and wil be like garlic to a vampire. But the Madrid terrorists carried ID cards, the 7/7 bombers carried ID and the 9/11 hijackers carried passport ID, so it won’t scare of Bin Laden and Co





With no obvious benefit to the British people, but many, many drawbacks to privacy at a very high price, will you refuse ID cards if (when) they become mandatory?





If I’ve missed the point here, and you can sell the benefits to me, please respond.





Don’t type abuse here – I’m trying to gauge British feelings and views.

If ID cards become compulsory in the UK, at your expense, will you rebel %26amp; refuse to get one?
Yep - there are no benefits. Why should I have to prove myself to the government? They dug the hole for themselves as far as this so called terrorist threat was concerned, they can dig themselves out of it. It is nothing to do with me - they have no right to stop me and check my ID.


And another thing - what is all this crap about profiling Muslims at airports and universities? Isn't this stereotyping? It's like saying because I'm a woman, I have to stay at home and do the housework. Most people have moved on - this is 2006!
Reply:probably yes
Reply:I would resist it as long as poss,but at the end of the day they have you over a barell.They would eventualy make you show it to withdraw money,buy certain goods(tv eqpt to check you have a licence),to get paid by your employer,to keep tabs on your co2 quota and your movements.Just look at the info Tescos can get on you if you have a loyalty card collating allthe info over a period of time they can even work out when the women in a household menstruate !! I say a big no to it.We have all been stuck behind someone in a shopping que when their card wont go through just imagine the hassle created in your life if you cant obtain goodsor services or even a doctors appointment when your ID card wont go through -"COMPUTER SAYS NO" sorry nuffink I can do youll have to call the helpline!
Reply:How exactly do the government expect all those who are struggling to survive the burden of Gordon Brown's tax regime to find yet more money to pay for a piece of plastic which is of no benefit whatsoever to its carrier ?


ID cards are yet another government scam to deprive us of our freedom and our money. We should all refuse to get one. Our prisons are already full to bursting - they can't lock us all up. For that matter, the court system couldn't cope with a mass rebellion either.
Reply:I would refuse to have one.
Reply:I cannot see the point of I.D. cards. We already have driving licences and passports. Why on earth do we need something else? To me it's just another way of taking even more of our hard earned money away from us. I think that we should all en-masse refuse to have them.
Reply:i can understand why the government wants us to have one, but also i believe that we shouldn't be forced to buy one, taking into consideration the hefty price tag. £200, 300 is a lot of money, as i am a full-time student currently at university and plus, i am unemployed as well. if they are mandatory, then yes i will not buy one and anyhow, even if we did have ID cards, i still think this won't prevent further terrorist attacks taking place in britain and as you stated the terrorists of the 9/11, 7/7 and madrid bombings had in their possession ID cards, and still they managed to murder thousands of innocent people in the process. so what makes the government think that having ID cards will curb the terrorism issue and stop potential terrorists plotting further attacks? because i believe that even if we did have ID cards, it still won't stop the future bin laden's and al-qaeda operatives from killing and murdering thousands of innocent people here in britain
Reply:You WILL be getting an ID card so you better get used to it. It will be a civil offence if you don't turn up (or have a reasonable excuse) to have your details taken. This will be in the form of a regular FINE. You will not be taken to prison, if you don't accept it you will be gradually made BANKRUPT. This is enough of a deterrent for most people.





Just to say that I am 100% against ID cards and the perverted "slavery is freedom" philosophy behind them. But there will be no grand protests and those that do refuse will be quietly dealt with away from the Press. If - when it comes down to it - you really do refuse, then you have my utmost respect.
Reply:The HELL with ID Cards. It is just another scam the goverment is running us! to make more money to fuel the war.
Reply:I am not paying for an ID card,If they want me to have one then they can give it to me.
Reply:I'm not getting one
Reply:I won't be getting one, if people knew the full scale of the proposals they probably wouldn't want one either.





Surprisingly the government is being underhand about them. I wonder how much of a kickback they're getting from the IT manufacturers and "thinktanks"?
Reply:Yes I will rebel and refuse to get one. I will certainly not pay out for something I neither want nor asked for!!!
Reply:i will never get one they can lock me up but with the state of out prision system i dont think they can.
Reply:The Government will get the money anyway so you might as well take the worthless card.
Reply:Anyone who knows anything about IT, or the govts track record on large scale IT projects is sweating!


A passport is ID. No on has explained how ID is supposed to stop a suicide bomber, yet thats supposedly why we need them.


A credit card is ID. You'd think the credit card companies have a vested interest in keeping the system secure yet the servers of the major companies were hacked last year and tens of thousands of numbers stolen - if you got any unexplained items on your bill you were told your id was stolen and told to buy a shredder.


All the info on us will be available for sale to business to target us for advertising more effectively. (Like I need more junk mail and more pressure to get into debt).





The poll tax was scrapped after years of protest only to be replaced by the community charge and an increase in VAT, it was addedd to gas an electricity.


I'l think carefully before protesting this one as the penalties seem drastically high.


I have a birth certificate and NI number, that should be enough. I never go abroad, can't afford it.
Reply:postively not!idont live in the uk i live in the us,iwould refuse on the grounds that i know who i am i already have idim also a veteran and a rehabilitated x con if the goverment doesnt have enough on me already then screw em i have nothing to hide


they dont scare or worry me i know all about 3 hots and a cot.


im prepared to meet my maker,are they/
Reply:No!


I will pay the asking amount for it.Why should I rebel?


But I presume If that happens,most of the fellow Britons will refuse to pay and then the working part of Britain has to pay for them instead!


So basically people who work will have to pay double!


Pay for 2 and get only one!
Reply:It will be very difficult to manage without them.The government will make it impossible to get any payments, (pensions,income support,child benefit,etc)without an id card.Mot, passports,in fact, you will be forced to have one.There is no way out of it,unfortunately.The daft thing is,honest people don't need them,%26amp; dis-honest people can get forged ones,for a price.Apart from the illegal invasion of Iraq,this is the most stupid thing Blair %26amp; his gang have done.
Reply:What's the point? I have a driver's license, a passport, a birth certificate, a national insurance number, a tenancy agreement, a bank account - how is it going to make a spot of difference?





It's just such a dumb idea, and it'll be busted wide open by organised criminals.
Reply:Yes i will

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