s? I don't think I would trust Labour with the contents of my copper jar after this, and they want use to fork out money for a card which contains the data from our retinas and our dna records? I have one message to Labour FCUK YOU.
Do you still think compulary ID cards are a good idea after the unforgivable cock up with child benefit record
No, I do not think that ID cards are a good idea any more.
I was in favour of ID cards. I became more sceptical once I found out the cost, and remember, all governments underestimate the costs of IT projects. The NHS is one example, the NHS net, and the system of Choose and Book are over budget and do not work properly.
But this c0ck up has finally made me make up my mind. I am now firmly against the ID card system.
Reply:yes
Reply:I wouldn't trust one of those m*****f*****s from New labour to run a burger bar. The wankers!
Reply:with you there, mate
Reply:No chance. A bunch of buffoons. Overpaid as well.
Reply:No. After this I refuse to participate in any compulsory ID card scheme. The government have proved they can't be trusted with sensitive personal information.
I don't think I'm alone in this thinking. If the government don't like it they can see us all in court. i think we'd have a good case.
Reply:Can you just imagine the hilarity of this lot trying to run a high tech ID card scheme ? Thank goodness for their wonderful incompetence. Otherwise it could all be rather worrying. Next, will Northern Rock bankrupt Britain ? Well, that's next weeks show folks. Just imagine, these clowns have the nerve to try and tell other countries how to run their affairs. Don't they realise they have made Britain an international laughing stock ?
Reply:Whatever gov is in they look for the power of control. God forbid there is another terrorism disaster, but if there is a national emergency will be declared and all parties will say we MUST have IDs. Then we are on the fast road to 1984, if a little late.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Mexican ID cards for diplomat bodyguards made of embossed metal with the face of ID holder engraved on it.?
What can you tell me about this?
I went down to Mexico to do body guarding work for a client. One of the other bodyguards had one of these badges/ID cards. Whenever he showed this badge to a police officer or any military officer he was instantly treated like a VIP and was allowed to go anywhere without him or anybody with him being searched or questioned.
Mexican ID cards for diplomat bodyguards made of embossed metal with the face of ID holder engraved on it.?
Did it have colored enamel, as well, in a leather wallet? If so, it sounds like the official government identity card - not a badge, per se, but no less commanding of attention (of course, everything is available for a price, so even if the body guard did not have any official status, he would be seen as someone who had powerful enough connections).
Reply:sounds like he had some pretty hefty contacts within the govn to me. never heard of it myself.
I went down to Mexico to do body guarding work for a client. One of the other bodyguards had one of these badges/ID cards. Whenever he showed this badge to a police officer or any military officer he was instantly treated like a VIP and was allowed to go anywhere without him or anybody with him being searched or questioned.
Mexican ID cards for diplomat bodyguards made of embossed metal with the face of ID holder engraved on it.?
Did it have colored enamel, as well, in a leather wallet? If so, it sounds like the official government identity card - not a badge, per se, but no less commanding of attention (of course, everything is available for a price, so even if the body guard did not have any official status, he would be seen as someone who had powerful enough connections).
Reply:sounds like he had some pretty hefty contacts within the govn to me. never heard of it myself.
How does everyone feel about the new national ID cards for the US?
they will have to be in affect in 2 years. I fell like we are spending unnecessary money and have our freedom taken away.
How does everyone feel about the new national ID cards for the US?
Pres Chimp was refering to the book by George Orwell named "1984". In it, Orwell predicted a society where every person was constantly supervised and regulated by the government.
Just for historical perspective, Orwell was a British citizen and wrote the book in 1948. He picked 1984 as the year by reversing the last two digits and thought this was a far enough away time frame that it was a distant future. There are many people who are now saying he was correct, just his time estiamtes were slightly off.
I would assume that Pres. Chimp's point was that the ID card is just another step closer to the society predicted by Orwell. I fully agree with this sentiment.
Reply:This is just another way to take more freedom away...also, A monkey can run this country better...I know the senator for this state needs to be an ape not what we have in office right now...
Reply:1984
Reply:Pres. Chimp, when ya gonna run for office? You have my vote!
Reply:Shhh. Big Brother is listening.
Reply:How interesting. I don't go out of my way to keep up on most news stories, and obviously I paid a price on this issue because I had no idea it was going on.
I read the two articles below. I can't share the same concern the ACLU does, but I don't normally share anything with them.
Spending unnecessary money? Don't think it's unnecessary. Think it's a lot of money having to be spent in a short period of time, but can't agree that it's unnecessary.
And I don't understand what you mean by having freedom taken away. What freedom will you lose because of this card?
From what I saw, you may be denied certain opportunities such as entering a federal courthouse or flying on a plane. One of the below articles says, "...if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service."
I have no problem with this. Frankly, I'd appreciate knowing that the people who are doing those things are doing them from within the "system," and not from without.
So I guess my answer is that I feel okay about the new card.
Here's the articles I read, hope the links work:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will...
http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/
Reply:What do you expect from the Fascist Bush regime. Personal freedoms have been cast aside by this evil man.
Reply:ummm no b/c our SSN is not safe
Reply:How would that take away your freedom? If anything it would be an effective way for the government to distinguish between citizens and illegals, making things more efficient and reducing mistakes.
How does everyone feel about the new national ID cards for the US?
Pres Chimp was refering to the book by George Orwell named "1984". In it, Orwell predicted a society where every person was constantly supervised and regulated by the government.
Just for historical perspective, Orwell was a British citizen and wrote the book in 1948. He picked 1984 as the year by reversing the last two digits and thought this was a far enough away time frame that it was a distant future. There are many people who are now saying he was correct, just his time estiamtes were slightly off.
I would assume that Pres. Chimp's point was that the ID card is just another step closer to the society predicted by Orwell. I fully agree with this sentiment.
Reply:This is just another way to take more freedom away...also, A monkey can run this country better...I know the senator for this state needs to be an ape not what we have in office right now...
Reply:1984
Reply:Pres. Chimp, when ya gonna run for office? You have my vote!
Reply:Shhh. Big Brother is listening.
Reply:How interesting. I don't go out of my way to keep up on most news stories, and obviously I paid a price on this issue because I had no idea it was going on.
I read the two articles below. I can't share the same concern the ACLU does, but I don't normally share anything with them.
Spending unnecessary money? Don't think it's unnecessary. Think it's a lot of money having to be spent in a short period of time, but can't agree that it's unnecessary.
And I don't understand what you mean by having freedom taken away. What freedom will you lose because of this card?
From what I saw, you may be denied certain opportunities such as entering a federal courthouse or flying on a plane. One of the below articles says, "...if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service."
I have no problem with this. Frankly, I'd appreciate knowing that the people who are doing those things are doing them from within the "system," and not from without.
So I guess my answer is that I feel okay about the new card.
Here's the articles I read, hope the links work:
http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will...
http://www.epic.org/privacy/id_cards/
Reply:What do you expect from the Fascist Bush regime. Personal freedoms have been cast aside by this evil man.
Reply:ummm no b/c our SSN is not safe
Reply:How would that take away your freedom? If anything it would be an effective way for the government to distinguish between citizens and illegals, making things more efficient and reducing mistakes.
What is the name of the thermal machine that covers the ID cards with plastic cover?
Please send me high resolution picture of this machine
What is the name of the thermal machine that covers the ID cards with plastic cover?
Laminator. Sorry, No pics to send. But I can tell you, it's just a heating element with a paper feeder. Mine is the size of a bread box, you feed the laminate plastice with the paper inside and it comes out the other end. It has temp settings but I never bother to read them, I just click it on, wait for the green light and feed my document. Go to an office supply store for pics and stats. Hope I helped.
Reply:laminator, you buy plastic pockets that the id sits in and the machine heats the pocket so it sticks together.
Reply:I think you mean a laminator. I think if you to to google.com and type 'laminator' you should get a picture.
Reply:if ur name wasnt what it is i proly give u the answer.
rain roots
What is the name of the thermal machine that covers the ID cards with plastic cover?
Laminator. Sorry, No pics to send. But I can tell you, it's just a heating element with a paper feeder. Mine is the size of a bread box, you feed the laminate plastice with the paper inside and it comes out the other end. It has temp settings but I never bother to read them, I just click it on, wait for the green light and feed my document. Go to an office supply store for pics and stats. Hope I helped.
Reply:laminator, you buy plastic pockets that the id sits in and the machine heats the pocket so it sticks together.
Reply:I think you mean a laminator. I think if you to to google.com and type 'laminator' you should get a picture.
Reply:if ur name wasnt what it is i proly give u the answer.
rain roots
Does anyone know where I can find free anime/vampire/therian id cards that can be sent to you in the mail?
I was wondering because I saw something similar to this hanging on the inside of a friend's car, and I wanted one for myself. On the left side it had a drawing/picture, and on the right it had info you fill in yourself.
Does anyone know where I can find free anime/vampire/therian id cards that can be sent to you in the mail?
will business cards work?
www.vistaprint.com
Does anyone know where I can find free anime/vampire/therian id cards that can be sent to you in the mail?
will business cards work?
www.vistaprint.com
Are there any advantages to using safety lanyards for ID cards at work?
I think you are talking about the 'breakaway' type lanyards. Yes there are advatages such as they break when sufficent force is applied-for example it gets caught in rotating equipment or moving machinery. As a security issue they can break if someone is trying to strangle you with it in a fight.
Are there any advantages to using safety lanyards for ID cards at work?
at our job we're required to wear them.. they show your status but also keep your ID visable. I agree with this.. its good to have the lanyards with ID's on thems o you know who you're talking to.
it also is a good way to make sure you dont lose your badge and have to go through the hassel of getting another one..
if you work at a place that uses promotional items like pins or buttons for advertising things, its a good place to put them instead of poking holes through your shirts :)
Reply:The ability to open a door without digging in your pocket for the key card.
Being able to recognize an intruder without having to ask for ID.
Reply:Um, yeah. You don't drop your ID card.
Are there any advantages to using safety lanyards for ID cards at work?
at our job we're required to wear them.. they show your status but also keep your ID visable. I agree with this.. its good to have the lanyards with ID's on thems o you know who you're talking to.
it also is a good way to make sure you dont lose your badge and have to go through the hassel of getting another one..
if you work at a place that uses promotional items like pins or buttons for advertising things, its a good place to put them instead of poking holes through your shirts :)
Reply:The ability to open a door without digging in your pocket for the key card.
Being able to recognize an intruder without having to ask for ID.
Reply:Um, yeah. You don't drop your ID card.
Can ID cards be used across US states, if not from that state?
For example, if I live in Illinois but want to go to a club in LA, would they allow me in?
Can ID cards be used across US states, if not from that state?
Absolutely, but be prepared to have your card scrutinized more carefully, to ensure it is the real deal.
Reply:yep....I'm in Canada and I go to a school that's outside my province of residence and I always go clubbing in the city where my school is with my home province ID
Can ID cards be used across US states, if not from that state?
Absolutely, but be prepared to have your card scrutinized more carefully, to ensure it is the real deal.
Reply:yep....I'm in Canada and I go to a school that's outside my province of residence and I always go clubbing in the city where my school is with my home province ID
Do IRR(Inactive Ready Reserve) military dependents still get ID cards and privileges?
My husband is getting off active duty in the Marine Corps, and I have no idea if I will still get an ID card to get on and off base and to use the exchange and commissary.
Do IRR(Inactive Ready Reserve) military dependents still get ID cards and privileges?
Actually I've been in the IRR since June when I got out of the USAF. IRR members do get a reserve ID and have full priveleges for base and commissary. We just dont get healthcare or pay. It is the duty of anyone in the IRR to keep the government updated on their status, including marriage and location. Whether this would mean dependent reserve ID's I don't know. I don't have any dependants. I'm in the Army now, leave for training in a couple weeks.
Alright I guess all the people here that aren't in the IRR know more about it than me, who is actually a part of it. I've still got my briefing packet and seperation orders, along with a DD Form 2 Green Reserve ID Card which is good until 2011 when my 8 years is up. But hey according to the thumbs down Im wrong so whatever.
Reply:I am in the IRR... personnel in IRR and their dependents are authorized a ID Card as long as you are in the IRR. See order MARINE CORPS ORDER P5512.11C chapter 13 section 2. and pg 32 table 1.9 for dependents. Report Abuse
Reply:nope sorry, no benefits...IRR is pretty much a civillian
Reply:IRR does not rate base priveldges for the member or the dependants; not able to sue the exchange or other base facilities.
Reply:IRR families no longer get benefits..actually, neither does the active duty member. He will not have access to the commisary, PX or even most bases unless he has a copy of orders giving him permission to be there. The only time family members keep military privelages is a) if the active duty member seperated from the military with enough time in to earn some level of transition benefits or b) the active duty member served a full 20 or more years and is retired.
Reply:no. Only if he were recalled to Active Duty.
Wraeth: the question is about a SPOUSE..and no, spouses of IRR do NOT rate an ID card. period.
Reply:NO, Your husband has to be on Active Duty!!
Reply:the only way you'll get an id card is if he retires. if he is just getting out an going into the irr, then no you will not get the id card nor will you get any kind of benefits. if he is honorably discharged, then he'll get all the benefits that a veteran is entitled to. if he still has time left why doesn't he go into the reserves? if he does that, then you have a good chance of getting some of the benefits you had while active. you get the id cards, tricare(thats the army health plan), life insurance, death/dismemberment insurance, among others.
Reply:no, welcome back to the real world
Reply:Nope.
IRR is just a way to keep your husband on the list to be called up in the event of a major war. For all intents and purposes, he is discharged from the active military. You will no longer have those benefits.
Reply:You are entitled to full privileges as long as he's on active duty. You'll have to go to the local installation (any service should be able to help you, but start with the nearest Marine Corps or Navy installation) and get enrolled into DEERS, the Defense Eligibility Enrollment System. Make sure that you have your personal ID as well as proof he's your husband with you when you get there.
BTW--IRR stands for *Individual* Ready Reserve.
Reply:No, IRR personnel and thier families don't receive any benefits at all. If he is recalled to AD, then you will get an ID card and all the benefits.
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Do IRR(Inactive Ready Reserve) military dependents still get ID cards and privileges?
Actually I've been in the IRR since June when I got out of the USAF. IRR members do get a reserve ID and have full priveleges for base and commissary. We just dont get healthcare or pay. It is the duty of anyone in the IRR to keep the government updated on their status, including marriage and location. Whether this would mean dependent reserve ID's I don't know. I don't have any dependants. I'm in the Army now, leave for training in a couple weeks.
Alright I guess all the people here that aren't in the IRR know more about it than me, who is actually a part of it. I've still got my briefing packet and seperation orders, along with a DD Form 2 Green Reserve ID Card which is good until 2011 when my 8 years is up. But hey according to the thumbs down Im wrong so whatever.
Reply:I am in the IRR... personnel in IRR and their dependents are authorized a ID Card as long as you are in the IRR. See order MARINE CORPS ORDER P5512.11C chapter 13 section 2. and pg 32 table 1.9 for dependents. Report Abuse
Reply:nope sorry, no benefits...IRR is pretty much a civillian
Reply:IRR does not rate base priveldges for the member or the dependants; not able to sue the exchange or other base facilities.
Reply:IRR families no longer get benefits..actually, neither does the active duty member. He will not have access to the commisary, PX or even most bases unless he has a copy of orders giving him permission to be there. The only time family members keep military privelages is a) if the active duty member seperated from the military with enough time in to earn some level of transition benefits or b) the active duty member served a full 20 or more years and is retired.
Reply:no. Only if he were recalled to Active Duty.
Wraeth: the question is about a SPOUSE..and no, spouses of IRR do NOT rate an ID card. period.
Reply:NO, Your husband has to be on Active Duty!!
Reply:the only way you'll get an id card is if he retires. if he is just getting out an going into the irr, then no you will not get the id card nor will you get any kind of benefits. if he is honorably discharged, then he'll get all the benefits that a veteran is entitled to. if he still has time left why doesn't he go into the reserves? if he does that, then you have a good chance of getting some of the benefits you had while active. you get the id cards, tricare(thats the army health plan), life insurance, death/dismemberment insurance, among others.
Reply:no, welcome back to the real world
Reply:Nope.
IRR is just a way to keep your husband on the list to be called up in the event of a major war. For all intents and purposes, he is discharged from the active military. You will no longer have those benefits.
Reply:You are entitled to full privileges as long as he's on active duty. You'll have to go to the local installation (any service should be able to help you, but start with the nearest Marine Corps or Navy installation) and get enrolled into DEERS, the Defense Eligibility Enrollment System. Make sure that you have your personal ID as well as proof he's your husband with you when you get there.
BTW--IRR stands for *Individual* Ready Reserve.
Reply:No, IRR personnel and thier families don't receive any benefits at all. If he is recalled to AD, then you will get an ID card and all the benefits.
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Should Gavin Newsome be removed and the Feds called in to prevent SF from giving ID cards to illegals?
Treason? He is aiding and abetting criminals.
Should Gavin Newsome be removed and the Feds called in to prevent SF from giving ID cards to illegals?
Marin County is in the hands of those that would overthrow the American system of government. This latest is but another example of their disdain for our laws.
Several CS canisters lobbed into the leftist throng would be a start.
Reply:Must be very difficult for those Americans that still value our nation's traditions to live amongst the rabble and moral squalor. Report Abuse
Reply:Enjoy your circle-jerk, wankers Report Abuse
Reply:Absolutely, somebody should rein in this nut job! California is over run with illegal aliens. What is he thinking?
Reply:Although furious when I read about this troglodyte mayor giving ID cards to illegal alien invaders and identity thieves, it hit me... CITY ID cards. So what! It's like having a library card with the words San Fran-Freako written on it. I've got bigger anti-illegal alien fights to pick than this one.
Reply:NO just banning them from all federal aid and support will be enough.
Reply:No. But that's my opinion.
Reply:He's a fools fool.
ID's are the first thing ang intelligent terrorist counterfits to get where he wants to go.
The government needs to crack down, not loosen up ID's.
Reply:Actually, let the INS have the list of all that apply, deport them most rikkitick, have Newsome arrested for violating Federal immigration laws, AND cut off Federal funding to SF until the entire left wing / nutcases running the place resign, are removed, or die from AIDS.
Should Gavin Newsome be removed and the Feds called in to prevent SF from giving ID cards to illegals?
Marin County is in the hands of those that would overthrow the American system of government. This latest is but another example of their disdain for our laws.
Several CS canisters lobbed into the leftist throng would be a start.
Reply:Must be very difficult for those Americans that still value our nation's traditions to live amongst the rabble and moral squalor. Report Abuse
Reply:Enjoy your circle-jerk, wankers Report Abuse
Reply:Absolutely, somebody should rein in this nut job! California is over run with illegal aliens. What is he thinking?
Reply:Although furious when I read about this troglodyte mayor giving ID cards to illegal alien invaders and identity thieves, it hit me... CITY ID cards. So what! It's like having a library card with the words San Fran-Freako written on it. I've got bigger anti-illegal alien fights to pick than this one.
Reply:NO just banning them from all federal aid and support will be enough.
Reply:No. But that's my opinion.
Reply:He's a fools fool.
ID's are the first thing ang intelligent terrorist counterfits to get where he wants to go.
The government needs to crack down, not loosen up ID's.
Reply:Actually, let the INS have the list of all that apply, deport them most rikkitick, have Newsome arrested for violating Federal immigration laws, AND cut off Federal funding to SF until the entire left wing / nutcases running the place resign, are removed, or die from AIDS.
San Francisco to issue city ID cards to illegal immigrant and transgender residents ?
Because transgender residents' licenses no longer reflect their appearance?
So why don't they get a new picture on their license?
I don't get that one, at all.
And I'm against ID cards for illegals.
What do you think?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state...
San Francisco to issue city ID cards to illegal immigrant and transgender residents ?
San Francisco is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. The city is chaotic. I was there and reported a crime to the police and they didn't care. It was only a block away. Alot of illegal activity is de facto legal in San Francisco. WHat's worse is enforcement is made at a whim. Nothing suprise me from that city. The horror is their decisions is dragging the rest of the state down hill.
As to the licenses, this proves that illegal immigrants do recieve services and programs from the government. I hope this ends only at the city level. That they can't use it at the state and government level.
Reply:So what ? issuing ID or DL u will find them ! u can find out how many are there and u can control who is going behind the wheel of a car .
If u want to find out how many illegals are in us start issue id`s and make them come out from the shade
Reply:I read this article yesterday and I was shocked, too. I don't know how they can get away with providing this ID to illegal immigrants. I don't mind if there is a picture ID for people who don't drive or for seniors, but it should be against the law to give these IDs to people who are illegal immigrants. I hope it comes back to bite them in the butt as I hope the government will turn around and use the IDs to easily seek out and gather up all the illegal immigrants via the info they gave for these cards and ship them out. San Francisco should not receive any state or federal government funding for their social services, medical services, schools, etc. for knowingly having and inviting illegal immigrants to live there freely and openly. My opinion.
Reply:It's not just you.... color me baffled
Reply:Leave it to the 'do anything you want' crowd in San Francisco to be the first to issue ID cards to illegals. That is the needed first step for them to be able to get free everything! Then when the city of San Fran starts going broke, they'll wonder what happened.... Typical.
Reply:Everyone here should have ID. Not an automatic driver's license or citizenship, but IDENTIFICATION with their current photo, address, all relevant numbers and their FINGERPRINTs. They need to be forced to use their own names and this is one way to do it. I'm not saying the city will use it that way or their motivations are 100% proAmerican. I'm just saying there needs to be identification of everyone here. There are too many people living below the radar causing trouble and using other people's names. By encouraging them to use their own names we reduce fraud and bring more people out into the open. Many won't do it fearing exactly that. Maybe wrong idea right track? Not sure. But there needs to be a uniform method of identifying everyone here. ANd the card should specifiy whether or not they are citizens.
Reply:Ahh! More stupid news from the home of barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelocy
Reply:great
Reply:I'd expect nothing less from Little Moscow by the bay.
Reply:What do you really expect? It is San Francisco after all aka Sodom City.
So why don't they get a new picture on their license?
I don't get that one, at all.
And I'm against ID cards for illegals.
What do you think?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state...
San Francisco to issue city ID cards to illegal immigrant and transgender residents ?
San Francisco is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. The city is chaotic. I was there and reported a crime to the police and they didn't care. It was only a block away. Alot of illegal activity is de facto legal in San Francisco. WHat's worse is enforcement is made at a whim. Nothing suprise me from that city. The horror is their decisions is dragging the rest of the state down hill.
As to the licenses, this proves that illegal immigrants do recieve services and programs from the government. I hope this ends only at the city level. That they can't use it at the state and government level.
Reply:So what ? issuing ID or DL u will find them ! u can find out how many are there and u can control who is going behind the wheel of a car .
If u want to find out how many illegals are in us start issue id`s and make them come out from the shade
Reply:I read this article yesterday and I was shocked, too. I don't know how they can get away with providing this ID to illegal immigrants. I don't mind if there is a picture ID for people who don't drive or for seniors, but it should be against the law to give these IDs to people who are illegal immigrants. I hope it comes back to bite them in the butt as I hope the government will turn around and use the IDs to easily seek out and gather up all the illegal immigrants via the info they gave for these cards and ship them out. San Francisco should not receive any state or federal government funding for their social services, medical services, schools, etc. for knowingly having and inviting illegal immigrants to live there freely and openly. My opinion.
Reply:It's not just you.... color me baffled
Reply:Leave it to the 'do anything you want' crowd in San Francisco to be the first to issue ID cards to illegals. That is the needed first step for them to be able to get free everything! Then when the city of San Fran starts going broke, they'll wonder what happened.... Typical.
Reply:Everyone here should have ID. Not an automatic driver's license or citizenship, but IDENTIFICATION with their current photo, address, all relevant numbers and their FINGERPRINTs. They need to be forced to use their own names and this is one way to do it. I'm not saying the city will use it that way or their motivations are 100% proAmerican. I'm just saying there needs to be identification of everyone here. There are too many people living below the radar causing trouble and using other people's names. By encouraging them to use their own names we reduce fraud and bring more people out into the open. Many won't do it fearing exactly that. Maybe wrong idea right track? Not sure. But there needs to be a uniform method of identifying everyone here. ANd the card should specifiy whether or not they are citizens.
Reply:Ahh! More stupid news from the home of barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelocy
Reply:great
Reply:I'd expect nothing less from Little Moscow by the bay.
Reply:What do you really expect? It is San Francisco after all aka Sodom City.
Is New York City next to give ID cards to illegals?
July 24, 2007
Bill for New York City ID Card to Be Introduced by Councilman
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Identification cards would be made available to all New York City residents — including tens of thousands of illegal immigrants — under a proposal by a City Council member from Queens who was inspired by a pioneering program that begins in New Haven today.
“I would hope that the federal government would not retaliate against the city of New York if we provided for a municipal identification card,” the council member, Hiram Monserrate, said yesterday, referring to a federal immigration raid in New Haven last month two days after that city approved the issuance of municipal cards.
“The city of New York is home to eight million people, many of them immigrants and some of them, frankly, undocumented,” said Mr. Monserrate, who plans to introduce legislation tomorrow to create the ID card. “Some of them have been residents of the city for many years, and to give them a basic ID card that’s valid within the city limits only makes sense for our municipality.”
Mr. Monserrate, a New York-born former city police officer who represents one of the city’s most diverse districts, called the legislation a first step.
Christine C. Quinn, the Council speaker, would not comment on its chances for success in the 51-member Council, a spokeswoman said, adding that the bill would be referred to committee for a full review.
In New Haven, a city of 125,000, the Board of Aldermen overwhelmingly approved the plan to offer the cards, which can be used by immigrants to open bank accounts as well as to gain access to municipal services.
So that the card, known as the Elm City Resident Card, would not become a “scarlet letter” for illegal immigrants, it was designed to appeal to all residents by combining access to pools, libraries and the municipal golf course, and doubling as a parking debit card.
But critics argue that it will entice illegal immigration and undermine border security.
For many city residents, the only state or local government identification now available is a driver’s license or a nondriver ID card. For both, the State Department of Motor Vehicles requires a Social Security card and other documents that prove legal presence in the country.
A municipal ID could encourage immigrants to report crimes to police, Mr. Monserrate said, as well as to request services.
Is New York City next to give ID cards to illegals?
does anyone else see the potential problem with these cards, in that terrorists can obtain them, and use them to their advantage? if people are undocumented, then you have to take them at their word as to who they are. what makes anyone think that an illegal is suddenly going to be honest about anything?
Reply:That's what I heard. Hope for the best.
Reply:Honestly I don't see what the issue is with these cards.They are a great idea if you stop to really consider it.Updated address's,no legality as far as government benefits,can't be used to vote the list goes on.I see more benefit to it than not.
Reply:Most cities already issue library cards and other types of access cards to everyone regardless of immigration status. The NYC proposal is just putting everything on one card, like the New Haven system does. But it's really nothing new.
Reply:I wouldn't be opposed to these identification cards if they were used to find and deport illegal immigrants.
Reply:I hope so.
Reply:These Id cards might be the solution to the illegal immigration problem. First we will know for certain if illegals do really do add to the tax base or overwhelm the social services, schools and such. Second we will be able to get a data base of those who request the Id's and might be able to judge the true number of illegals
Bill for New York City ID Card to Be Introduced by Councilman
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Identification cards would be made available to all New York City residents — including tens of thousands of illegal immigrants — under a proposal by a City Council member from Queens who was inspired by a pioneering program that begins in New Haven today.
“I would hope that the federal government would not retaliate against the city of New York if we provided for a municipal identification card,” the council member, Hiram Monserrate, said yesterday, referring to a federal immigration raid in New Haven last month two days after that city approved the issuance of municipal cards.
“The city of New York is home to eight million people, many of them immigrants and some of them, frankly, undocumented,” said Mr. Monserrate, who plans to introduce legislation tomorrow to create the ID card. “Some of them have been residents of the city for many years, and to give them a basic ID card that’s valid within the city limits only makes sense for our municipality.”
Mr. Monserrate, a New York-born former city police officer who represents one of the city’s most diverse districts, called the legislation a first step.
Christine C. Quinn, the Council speaker, would not comment on its chances for success in the 51-member Council, a spokeswoman said, adding that the bill would be referred to committee for a full review.
In New Haven, a city of 125,000, the Board of Aldermen overwhelmingly approved the plan to offer the cards, which can be used by immigrants to open bank accounts as well as to gain access to municipal services.
So that the card, known as the Elm City Resident Card, would not become a “scarlet letter” for illegal immigrants, it was designed to appeal to all residents by combining access to pools, libraries and the municipal golf course, and doubling as a parking debit card.
But critics argue that it will entice illegal immigration and undermine border security.
For many city residents, the only state or local government identification now available is a driver’s license or a nondriver ID card. For both, the State Department of Motor Vehicles requires a Social Security card and other documents that prove legal presence in the country.
A municipal ID could encourage immigrants to report crimes to police, Mr. Monserrate said, as well as to request services.
Is New York City next to give ID cards to illegals?
does anyone else see the potential problem with these cards, in that terrorists can obtain them, and use them to their advantage? if people are undocumented, then you have to take them at their word as to who they are. what makes anyone think that an illegal is suddenly going to be honest about anything?
Reply:That's what I heard. Hope for the best.
Reply:Honestly I don't see what the issue is with these cards.They are a great idea if you stop to really consider it.Updated address's,no legality as far as government benefits,can't be used to vote the list goes on.I see more benefit to it than not.
Reply:Most cities already issue library cards and other types of access cards to everyone regardless of immigration status. The NYC proposal is just putting everything on one card, like the New Haven system does. But it's really nothing new.
Reply:I wouldn't be opposed to these identification cards if they were used to find and deport illegal immigrants.
Reply:I hope so.
Reply:These Id cards might be the solution to the illegal immigration problem. First we will know for certain if illegals do really do add to the tax base or overwhelm the social services, schools and such. Second we will be able to get a data base of those who request the Id's and might be able to judge the true number of illegals
Do you think the Illegals have bogus voter ID cards and will vote in the upcoming election?
If the "coyotes" are hooking these criminals up with ID's to use while in the USA, isn't it possible that fake voter registration cards have also been issued? What guarantee do we have that only legal citizens will be voting?
Do you think the Illegals have bogus voter ID cards and will vote in the upcoming election?
I'm taking my video recorder this year--they better be checking-well!
Reply:Racist....plain and simple.
Disgusting creep. Report Abuse
Reply:If they stole an Identity of a woman in CA, It should not surprise anyone that they would do the same with voter registration. I hope not. But I am a sucker for my hope.
Reply:Mexicians should not need fake cards to vote. we should be allowed to because mexico was stolen from us. and we will also own america in soon .
Reply:whats wrong with you are u just racist or what
Reply:Why would they risk getting caught, for something as unnecessary as voting?
It's not like illegal aliens have any more reason to vote than the average citizen, and consider how few citizens vote.
Reply:If they can get fake ss cards and Id's I don't see why they wouldn't have fake voter registration cards. It truly would not surprise me to find out that there will be illegals voting.
Reply:yes
Reply:no I dont. I have never heard of that.
Reply:They're too ignorant to vote. I don't think we have anything to worry about.
Reply:Many ILLEGAL Aliens Do Vote
Case In Point
-- Antonio Villaraigosa
Mayor- Los Angeles, California-
"ELECTED" by the VOTES of ILLEGAL ALIENS -
Villaraigosa has spent a lifetime
opposing U.S. immigration laws -
Villaraigosa Proclaimed, and I Quote
"This bill in Congress is wrong.
The only thing illegal is making 11 million illegal aliens felons."
Yeah!!! He Actually said that.
People should make No Mistake about it -
Villaraigosa's Allegiance is to Mexico,
NOT California or These United States of America
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/...
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/indivi...
Senor Villaraigosa is A Member Of "MEChA" and " LA RAZA"
Reply:You don't need a bogus anything. If you produce no ID, they assign you a number to vote. When you vote they may ask you for ID, but a note from you mom will probably do - even if she's dead.
NY and AZ are the only two I know so far with CO, but other than that, as fast as they can come to register from any country in the world, as fast as they can vote.
Reply:Of course, it's possible. And if it's possible the Republicans will find a way to do it. Shouldn't be giving them any ideas !!
Reply:no. getting voter registration cards would be a lot harder.
Reply:you only have to fill out a voters registration card and send it in. no one has to hook you up and yes they use them
Reply:majority of illegals use fake id's and papers, usually from people that are dead.
rodeo buckle
Do you think the Illegals have bogus voter ID cards and will vote in the upcoming election?
I'm taking my video recorder this year--they better be checking-well!
Reply:Racist....plain and simple.
Disgusting creep. Report Abuse
Reply:If they stole an Identity of a woman in CA, It should not surprise anyone that they would do the same with voter registration. I hope not. But I am a sucker for my hope.
Reply:Mexicians should not need fake cards to vote. we should be allowed to because mexico was stolen from us. and we will also own america in soon .
Reply:whats wrong with you are u just racist or what
Reply:Why would they risk getting caught, for something as unnecessary as voting?
It's not like illegal aliens have any more reason to vote than the average citizen, and consider how few citizens vote.
Reply:If they can get fake ss cards and Id's I don't see why they wouldn't have fake voter registration cards. It truly would not surprise me to find out that there will be illegals voting.
Reply:yes
Reply:no I dont. I have never heard of that.
Reply:They're too ignorant to vote. I don't think we have anything to worry about.
Reply:Many ILLEGAL Aliens Do Vote
Case In Point
-- Antonio Villaraigosa
Mayor- Los Angeles, California-
"ELECTED" by the VOTES of ILLEGAL ALIENS -
Villaraigosa has spent a lifetime
opposing U.S. immigration laws -
Villaraigosa Proclaimed, and I Quote
"This bill in Congress is wrong.
The only thing illegal is making 11 million illegal aliens felons."
Yeah!!! He Actually said that.
People should make No Mistake about it -
Villaraigosa's Allegiance is to Mexico,
NOT California or These United States of America
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/...
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/indivi...
Senor Villaraigosa is A Member Of "MEChA" and " LA RAZA"
Reply:You don't need a bogus anything. If you produce no ID, they assign you a number to vote. When you vote they may ask you for ID, but a note from you mom will probably do - even if she's dead.
NY and AZ are the only two I know so far with CO, but other than that, as fast as they can come to register from any country in the world, as fast as they can vote.
Reply:Of course, it's possible. And if it's possible the Republicans will find a way to do it. Shouldn't be giving them any ideas !!
Reply:no. getting voter registration cards would be a lot harder.
Reply:you only have to fill out a voters registration card and send it in. no one has to hook you up and yes they use them
Reply:majority of illegals use fake id's and papers, usually from people that are dead.
rodeo buckle
If ID cards are(no good)or(forced on)to Brits,why should it be compulsory 4 foreign nationals living in UK?
When will fairness come into play? If is 4 security reasons,we all no Brits can't be excused.The bad apples have already integrated %26amp; are Brits too,so if IDs are necessary why exempt them??
If ID cards are(no good)or(forced on)to Brits,why should it be compulsory 4 foreign nationals living in UK?
That is a good point, ID's for all!
Reply:Everyone including British born people should carry ID. In the UK when they changed the Driving license format they said it was to help improve ID risks etc. (from paper to paper %26amp; creditcard) I would welcome additional ID it will help reduce people abusing our system.
In the States the Real ID act comes into play in May '08, again to help reduces abuse by people. ID theft is becoming a big problem here and is always on the news in some form or other.
So do I want extra security or protection to protect my credit, my SSN, my British ID etc then yes.
Reply:bloody labour party are dragging this country into fascism. they wont rest untill we are all strutting around towing the party line and children are employed to spy on their own parents. i wonder when our flag gets changed to the eagle and swastika??
Reply:I partially agree with what your saying as we have a very frightening band of Islamic fundementalists who are home grown threatning our British democracy...I think anyone with parents or even grandparents that were born in certain Islamic countries that have come here should have ID cards, but to make an ex-soldier who fought in the battles of WW2 and can trace his family right back to his BRITISH roots shouldnt have to.
Reply:As an ex-offender, I can honestly say that only the very bad have anything to lose as result of ID cards. Most people about to be apprehended run away and don't believe those cop shows on TV. They get away far more often than not. Only the most insidious need worry. That we currently dislike the idea is proof only of the British sense of fair play. Once educated, (that's happening now), we'll have ID cards/chips and we should all be begging for them. I wasn't a high level criminal but I was a really effective thief, using amonst other things, fraud to buy my 'medication'. I would simply have carried the ID as nobody can just halt you in the street except the police who do so anyway. I wasn't stopped by a policeman/woman in several years. The ID card may have its flaws but will hopefully stop large amounts (tens/hundreds of thousands) of hateful people arriving. People who disagree with our way of life. Our way of life was hard come by (I believe it to be far better than in the 'States though perhaps not Australia/Canada etc) and it is possible that we may gradually lose a war in which we are defeated by default. With those who dislike democracy and women's rights etc, using our own laws and voting system as a weapon against us. Sounds incredible but those good honest Muslims who abide here and continue to arrive could find themselves having to vote for those, again, INSIDIOUS religious warriors. 'Having to' because it is shown that religous folk of any religion/denomination are easily swayed by their 'preachers' and I've seen lots of mullahs/visiting speakers in action because their 'sermons' are very often posted on the net. These can't be the teachings of GOD.
[in·sid·i·ous /ɪnˈsɪdiəs/
–adjective
1. intended to entrap or beguile: an insidious plan.
2. stealthily treacherous or deceitful: an insidious enemy.
3. operating or proceeding in an inconspicuous or seemingly harmless way but actually with grave effect: an insidious disease.
[Origin: 1535–45; %26lt; L insidiōsus deceitful, equiv. to insidi(ae) (pl.) an ambush (deriv. of insidére to sit in or on) + -ōsus -ous] —Synonyms 1. corrupting. 2. artful, cunning, wily, subtle, crafty.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
PS I'm not religous but love each and every person until they hurt someone etc and then I can often, with a sad heart, understand. I don't believe in hate. If I had an enemy, I don't think hate would be of much use.
No offence is meant by anything that I write and I seek, always, only to continue to learn. I accept all criticism for what it is.
I would love to have used less words but would have not addressed the question even in so far as I have. Very little
Reply:i personally agree that "I D" cards are a great item, i will be first in the Que for one, BUT then i have absolutely nothing to hide unlike most?
if it proves that to obtain one you must have a genuine valid british birth certificate %26amp; NHS health card, even better?
what a great weapon against illegal immigration?
then you will know in seconds who has a right to be here, and who has not.
so come on WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO HIDE.
Reply:have u something to hide?
Reply:The conservatives have pledged to scrap the idea if elected. Let's see if they keep their promise!
Reply:Very good point.
'Britishness' means, not having to prove to the State who you are when walking down the road, or sleeping in your own bed.
And why will STUDENTS have to have ID cards? To prove they are old enough to run up a huge student debt no thanks to easy binge drinking laws?
"It's time to put the State back in its cage."
BELOW: The issue with ID cards is the premise that the government considers that
** EVERYONE IS A CRIMINAL/TERRORIST/RAPIST **
Even some three year old girl. And under ID Cards, everyone is a suspect, for a crime that they WILL (possibly maybe not) commit at some point in the future.
Right now, the ONLY people who have to give DNA are suspects in a criminal investigation, and not your children.
If ID cards are(no good)or(forced on)to Brits,why should it be compulsory 4 foreign nationals living in UK?
That is a good point, ID's for all!
Reply:Everyone including British born people should carry ID. In the UK when they changed the Driving license format they said it was to help improve ID risks etc. (from paper to paper %26amp; creditcard) I would welcome additional ID it will help reduce people abusing our system.
In the States the Real ID act comes into play in May '08, again to help reduces abuse by people. ID theft is becoming a big problem here and is always on the news in some form or other.
So do I want extra security or protection to protect my credit, my SSN, my British ID etc then yes.
Reply:bloody labour party are dragging this country into fascism. they wont rest untill we are all strutting around towing the party line and children are employed to spy on their own parents. i wonder when our flag gets changed to the eagle and swastika??
Reply:I partially agree with what your saying as we have a very frightening band of Islamic fundementalists who are home grown threatning our British democracy...I think anyone with parents or even grandparents that were born in certain Islamic countries that have come here should have ID cards, but to make an ex-soldier who fought in the battles of WW2 and can trace his family right back to his BRITISH roots shouldnt have to.
Reply:As an ex-offender, I can honestly say that only the very bad have anything to lose as result of ID cards. Most people about to be apprehended run away and don't believe those cop shows on TV. They get away far more often than not. Only the most insidious need worry. That we currently dislike the idea is proof only of the British sense of fair play. Once educated, (that's happening now), we'll have ID cards/chips and we should all be begging for them. I wasn't a high level criminal but I was a really effective thief, using amonst other things, fraud to buy my 'medication'. I would simply have carried the ID as nobody can just halt you in the street except the police who do so anyway. I wasn't stopped by a policeman/woman in several years. The ID card may have its flaws but will hopefully stop large amounts (tens/hundreds of thousands) of hateful people arriving. People who disagree with our way of life. Our way of life was hard come by (I believe it to be far better than in the 'States though perhaps not Australia/Canada etc) and it is possible that we may gradually lose a war in which we are defeated by default. With those who dislike democracy and women's rights etc, using our own laws and voting system as a weapon against us. Sounds incredible but those good honest Muslims who abide here and continue to arrive could find themselves having to vote for those, again, INSIDIOUS religious warriors. 'Having to' because it is shown that religous folk of any religion/denomination are easily swayed by their 'preachers' and I've seen lots of mullahs/visiting speakers in action because their 'sermons' are very often posted on the net. These can't be the teachings of GOD.
[in·sid·i·ous /ɪnˈsɪdiəs/
–adjective
1. intended to entrap or beguile: an insidious plan.
2. stealthily treacherous or deceitful: an insidious enemy.
3. operating or proceeding in an inconspicuous or seemingly harmless way but actually with grave effect: an insidious disease.
[Origin: 1535–45; %26lt; L insidiōsus deceitful, equiv. to insidi(ae) (pl.) an ambush (deriv. of insidére to sit in or on) + -ōsus -ous] —Synonyms 1. corrupting. 2. artful, cunning, wily, subtle, crafty.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
PS I'm not religous but love each and every person until they hurt someone etc and then I can often, with a sad heart, understand. I don't believe in hate. If I had an enemy, I don't think hate would be of much use.
No offence is meant by anything that I write and I seek, always, only to continue to learn. I accept all criticism for what it is.
I would love to have used less words but would have not addressed the question even in so far as I have. Very little
Reply:i personally agree that "I D" cards are a great item, i will be first in the Que for one, BUT then i have absolutely nothing to hide unlike most?
if it proves that to obtain one you must have a genuine valid british birth certificate %26amp; NHS health card, even better?
what a great weapon against illegal immigration?
then you will know in seconds who has a right to be here, and who has not.
so come on WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO HIDE.
Reply:have u something to hide?
Reply:The conservatives have pledged to scrap the idea if elected. Let's see if they keep their promise!
Reply:Very good point.
'Britishness' means, not having to prove to the State who you are when walking down the road, or sleeping in your own bed.
And why will STUDENTS have to have ID cards? To prove they are old enough to run up a huge student debt no thanks to easy binge drinking laws?
"It's time to put the State back in its cage."
BELOW: The issue with ID cards is the premise that the government considers that
** EVERYONE IS A CRIMINAL/TERRORIST/RAPIST **
Even some three year old girl. And under ID Cards, everyone is a suspect, for a crime that they WILL (possibly maybe not) commit at some point in the future.
Right now, the ONLY people who have to give DNA are suspects in a criminal investigation, and not your children.
Should dating agencies be replaced by one simple method of amending the id cards when they come into use so?
that all a single person has to do is scan the card and all the details come up?. Think of the money it would save people, it would be an all in one service, scan, date and dump.
Good idea or consign it to the wastebin?
Should dating agencies be replaced by one simple method of amending the id cards when they come into use so?
Put it in the bin with the I.D card idea!
Reply:To add to this idea I think if you could 'personalise' the card with a pic of your choice you may even find there would be no need to scan at all!!
I'm guessing yours would be 3 Persian kittens sitting in a wicker basket . Am I right?
Reply:as someone who has just discovered int dating .....................i think thats a wicked idea..........go with that one dude........g luck
Reply:Top notch idea. Would save all the chatting up nonsense.
Good idea or consign it to the wastebin?
Should dating agencies be replaced by one simple method of amending the id cards when they come into use so?
Put it in the bin with the I.D card idea!
Reply:To add to this idea I think if you could 'personalise' the card with a pic of your choice you may even find there would be no need to scan at all!!
I'm guessing yours would be 3 Persian kittens sitting in a wicker basket . Am I right?
Reply:as someone who has just discovered int dating .....................i think thats a wicked idea..........go with that one dude........g luck
Reply:Top notch idea. Would save all the chatting up nonsense.
Is there a place I can buy teslin id cards without ordering them on the net?
Me and my friends are performing a play. W organized this ourselves and it got surprisingly good reviews. We thought specialy made tickets out of teslin would be the way to make it that much more special. I don't feel quite comfortable putting my creditcard number on the internet. Is there a place, like an electronics store, that i could buy sheets of (inkjet) teslin?
Is there a place I can buy teslin id cards without ordering them on the net?
try ebay..
Is there a place I can buy teslin id cards without ordering them on the net?
try ebay..
Does anyone know the place in Philadelphia that makes Personal ID cards?
I bought an ID there before but no longer have the address. It was a copy center of some sort. Could be used for fake ID
Does anyone know the place in Philadelphia that makes Personal ID cards?
I'm sure you know that fake ID's are illegal. If you get caught by the police using one at a club or something, there are large fines. Repeat violators are sometimes sent to jail.
But you already knew that much. What you may not realize is that making the fake ID is also against the law, and it would also be illegal for anyone here to tell you where to get a one. In other words, you are asking for help in committing a crime, and anyone who tells you how to do it is an accomplice. That would really be a BAD idea.
So, be careful what you ask for and who you ask.
Reply:don't be such a hard ***. It's actually legal at this place. Because your not getting a fake drivers license, your getting a photo identification card. Places are suppost to only take drivers licenses anyhow. The place is called US Copy Center Report Abuse
Reply:NOT A GOOD IDEA TO USE A FAKE I.D WITH ALL THIS HOMELAND SECURITY STUFF FINES FOR THIS ARE LIKE 1000 BUCKS, IF YOU GOT IT GO FOR IT.
Reply:No
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Does anyone know the place in Philadelphia that makes Personal ID cards?
I'm sure you know that fake ID's are illegal. If you get caught by the police using one at a club or something, there are large fines. Repeat violators are sometimes sent to jail.
But you already knew that much. What you may not realize is that making the fake ID is also against the law, and it would also be illegal for anyone here to tell you where to get a one. In other words, you are asking for help in committing a crime, and anyone who tells you how to do it is an accomplice. That would really be a BAD idea.
So, be careful what you ask for and who you ask.
Reply:don't be such a hard ***. It's actually legal at this place. Because your not getting a fake drivers license, your getting a photo identification card. Places are suppost to only take drivers licenses anyhow. The place is called US Copy Center Report Abuse
Reply:NOT A GOOD IDEA TO USE A FAKE I.D WITH ALL THIS HOMELAND SECURITY STUFF FINES FOR THIS ARE LIKE 1000 BUCKS, IF YOU GOT IT GO FOR IT.
Reply:No
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Is anybody thinking of changing nationality in order to avoid the new British ID cards and passports?
I might, what do you think?
I just don't trust the British government to protect my best interests if I give them the information, fortunately I have the opportunity to change to another nationality.
Is anybody thinking of changing nationality in order to avoid the new British ID cards and passports?
I think I'll become Scottish. They always seem to get the best of everything - and the English pay for it all. This will be a great personal sacrifice because I don't like:
Tartan
Council housing
Fried Mars bars
Being glassed
Prison
The thought of having to have at least seventeen children
The thought of dying of old age at 42
Woodbines
Rickets
Having absolutely no sense of humour
;-)
(Yes - I know we're all British)
Reply:No. I think I.D cards are a good idea. I don't know why they can't produce one that can be used as I.D, passport, driving licence, and perhaps even bank card all in one. Though the latter might be a bit difficult with all the different banks and different types of accounts. It will probably happen world wide eventually. What I would object to is if they ever decided to have compulsory chip implants, or tattoos.
Reply:Go to Italy. The italians have it right - they just ignore any laws they dont like until they go away.
Reply:Changing nationality is like changing your mother.
.
Reply:whats wrong with them?
Reply:I'm not changing nationality. Just emigrating in about 5 years. My wife has dual nationality. She's already applied.
I just don't trust the British government to protect my best interests if I give them the information, fortunately I have the opportunity to change to another nationality.
Is anybody thinking of changing nationality in order to avoid the new British ID cards and passports?
I think I'll become Scottish. They always seem to get the best of everything - and the English pay for it all. This will be a great personal sacrifice because I don't like:
Tartan
Council housing
Fried Mars bars
Being glassed
Prison
The thought of having to have at least seventeen children
The thought of dying of old age at 42
Woodbines
Rickets
Having absolutely no sense of humour
;-)
(Yes - I know we're all British)
Reply:No. I think I.D cards are a good idea. I don't know why they can't produce one that can be used as I.D, passport, driving licence, and perhaps even bank card all in one. Though the latter might be a bit difficult with all the different banks and different types of accounts. It will probably happen world wide eventually. What I would object to is if they ever decided to have compulsory chip implants, or tattoos.
Reply:Go to Italy. The italians have it right - they just ignore any laws they dont like until they go away.
Reply:Changing nationality is like changing your mother.
.
Reply:whats wrong with them?
Reply:I'm not changing nationality. Just emigrating in about 5 years. My wife has dual nationality. She's already applied.
Whats the deal with the national id cards?
Now dont tell me I'm crazy , I've herd all kinds of things about these cards . Im not getting one , and i dont care what happens to me . But i would like to know whats my consequences if i dont get one . I really dont know how anyone could support these things , i mean it sounds like something out of 1984 . And my 85 year old father who is a repubican aggres and hes not getting one either ....
Whats the deal with the national id cards?
There are already so many identifiers (drivers licenses, social security cards, birth certificates, passports, etc.) that the Feds have full access to, I don't know why one more ID card is going to make this a police state.
Reply:You have a social security card...guess what, you got a national I.D. card.
Reply:To be fair we all would have to have one and be identified. The whole idea is just another freedom we are loosing. I do not want to sound too dramatic but, this sounds like Germany when Hitler was in charge. I do not like illegals here and I want them gone gone gone. The way is to let law enforcement deport illegals and that requires the law enforcers to ask for ID if you do not have it you are gone. I expect the government of Mexico to pay for the transportation. Let's keep score and bill Mexico for the expense they have caused letting Mexican citizens leave the country without papers.
Reply:The owner tagging its property .
Reply:how about the chip inside the card that will pinpoint you like Will Smith in Enemy of the State, oh and shortly after that they will implant a chip in your baby. (for the baby's safety of course)
WAKE UP America
Whats the deal with the national id cards?
There are already so many identifiers (drivers licenses, social security cards, birth certificates, passports, etc.) that the Feds have full access to, I don't know why one more ID card is going to make this a police state.
Reply:You have a social security card...guess what, you got a national I.D. card.
Reply:To be fair we all would have to have one and be identified. The whole idea is just another freedom we are loosing. I do not want to sound too dramatic but, this sounds like Germany when Hitler was in charge. I do not like illegals here and I want them gone gone gone. The way is to let law enforcement deport illegals and that requires the law enforcers to ask for ID if you do not have it you are gone. I expect the government of Mexico to pay for the transportation. Let's keep score and bill Mexico for the expense they have caused letting Mexican citizens leave the country without papers.
Reply:The owner tagging its property .
Reply:how about the chip inside the card that will pinpoint you like Will Smith in Enemy of the State, oh and shortly after that they will implant a chip in your baby. (for the baby's safety of course)
WAKE UP America
What do you think about the introduction of ID cards?
Do you think it's a good idea that all of your personal details will be held on a database, and that the government can keep track of your every movement, including how much bread you buy?
What do you think about the introduction of ID cards?
I heard that in Australia and US (I think, 2 countries that use ID cards anyway) there is a much higher rate of identity theft, because all someone would need to steal your identity is one card instead of having to go through loads of bills etc. to get all your details. I think it's the most stupid idea and you'll probably end up having to have an ID card to prove who you are in order to get an ID card, or you'll need a passport, driving licence or some other such thing that not everybody has.
Then again if they introduced them and someone stole the identity of someone like the prime minister and got all his money then they'd just see how silly an idea it was.
Reply:When we get away from all of paranoia, can you prove your a citizen of the U.S. so you can vote and own property as prescribed by law?
This is the reason that many other countries have identity cards, is just to prove who you are, then what rights you have as a citizen, which are many in some places.
Reply:It is great to have ID Cards. This will solve the problem of multiple voting and selecting a wrong candidate to run your Government. It is also good to keep track of illegal immigrants, a problem which the U.S. is facing now.
Reply:why does the gov need to know everything about me? never did before. the usa is getting like this too. its not the govs business or juristiction to regulate my whereabouts or dealings. if im a criminal then charge me if not fock off. i spent 4.5 years on probation, 3 years prison %26amp; 2 years parole. its left me feeling like im still there 6 years later. soon everyone will feel this way but with a false sense of patriotism %26amp; well being. still imprisonment even if they dont realize it.
Reply:It isn't self centred and paranoid at all, it is exactly what the British government plans on doing. I think it is a bad idea. In theory it would be good to prove who you are but we have other forms of identity already. Youcan get id cards if you choose to but they are easily faj=ked and I don't believe anyone should have the right to know personal details of anyone without good reason. It would be easier to steal identities if all the information was stored on one card so in practise, it wouldn't work anyway.
Reply:What the hell are you talking about, and why the hell would the government care about your bread consumption habits. If you dont want them to know what you've bought than pay cash and shred the reciept. If you seriously believe the government wants to watch you close enough to keep files detailed enough to include grocery lists than you're both incredibly self-centered and paranoid.
Reply:we lose our rights step by step. later the government will introduce other laws to get rid more of our right
What do you think about the introduction of ID cards?
I heard that in Australia and US (I think, 2 countries that use ID cards anyway) there is a much higher rate of identity theft, because all someone would need to steal your identity is one card instead of having to go through loads of bills etc. to get all your details. I think it's the most stupid idea and you'll probably end up having to have an ID card to prove who you are in order to get an ID card, or you'll need a passport, driving licence or some other such thing that not everybody has.
Then again if they introduced them and someone stole the identity of someone like the prime minister and got all his money then they'd just see how silly an idea it was.
Reply:When we get away from all of paranoia, can you prove your a citizen of the U.S. so you can vote and own property as prescribed by law?
This is the reason that many other countries have identity cards, is just to prove who you are, then what rights you have as a citizen, which are many in some places.
Reply:It is great to have ID Cards. This will solve the problem of multiple voting and selecting a wrong candidate to run your Government. It is also good to keep track of illegal immigrants, a problem which the U.S. is facing now.
Reply:why does the gov need to know everything about me? never did before. the usa is getting like this too. its not the govs business or juristiction to regulate my whereabouts or dealings. if im a criminal then charge me if not fock off. i spent 4.5 years on probation, 3 years prison %26amp; 2 years parole. its left me feeling like im still there 6 years later. soon everyone will feel this way but with a false sense of patriotism %26amp; well being. still imprisonment even if they dont realize it.
Reply:It isn't self centred and paranoid at all, it is exactly what the British government plans on doing. I think it is a bad idea. In theory it would be good to prove who you are but we have other forms of identity already. Youcan get id cards if you choose to but they are easily faj=ked and I don't believe anyone should have the right to know personal details of anyone without good reason. It would be easier to steal identities if all the information was stored on one card so in practise, it wouldn't work anyway.
Reply:What the hell are you talking about, and why the hell would the government care about your bread consumption habits. If you dont want them to know what you've bought than pay cash and shred the reciept. If you seriously believe the government wants to watch you close enough to keep files detailed enough to include grocery lists than you're both incredibly self-centered and paranoid.
Reply:we lose our rights step by step. later the government will introduce other laws to get rid more of our right
Why is it that the Government needs ID cards mandated to everyone and not Medical insurance?
this is not even a fair comparison.
ID cards cannot be issued to illegals(well thats another story)
And the gov't shouldnt be in charge of picking up the tab on medical bills for the entire country as well as paying everyones groceries and rent.
Why is it that the Government needs ID cards mandated to everyone and not Medical insurance?
ID cards are cheap. Insurance is expensive. Basic math.
Reply:What country are we talking about here, and when did ID cards become manditory?
Reply:Because terrorist are not trying to steal medicine, they are trying to steal our freedoms by sneaking into our country and killing it from the inside out. With Id's the government will know who is who when they try and board a plane into our cities.
It made sense when I was thinking it.
Take care and keep the faith....PEACE....cya
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ID cards cannot be issued to illegals(well thats another story)
And the gov't shouldnt be in charge of picking up the tab on medical bills for the entire country as well as paying everyones groceries and rent.
Why is it that the Government needs ID cards mandated to everyone and not Medical insurance?
ID cards are cheap. Insurance is expensive. Basic math.
Reply:What country are we talking about here, and when did ID cards become manditory?
Reply:Because terrorist are not trying to steal medicine, they are trying to steal our freedoms by sneaking into our country and killing it from the inside out. With Id's the government will know who is who when they try and board a plane into our cities.
It made sense when I was thinking it.
Take care and keep the faith....PEACE....cya
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How do attorneys get id cards to bypass metal detectors at the Daley Center court in Chicago?
They produce a certificate of good standing (which proves that they are attorneys) in order to obtain the application. Even the piece of paper they fill out is very closely controlled. Then they complete the application and submit it with photo id to start the authentication process. Then the court mails an authenticator to the attorney's registered address. Then the attorney brings the authenticator, in person, to the administrative office of the courts, produces the same photo id that they used to get the application in the first place, and only then is the securepass issued.
So if you thought you could obtain an attorney's pass and smuggle a gun through the checkpoint, forgetaboutit, it's more likely that you could get in by impersonating a police officer. (A 0.000001 per cent probability is greater than the zero chance you have of getting a securepass if you are not really and truly a lawyer in good standing.
How do attorneys get id cards to bypass metal detectors at the Daley Center court in Chicago?
Actually I looked into it more and that's not right Cybershark. You need your ARDC card, a photo id, and a check for $20. 7th Floor of Daley Center - get it right there, no wait, no mailing you anything, etc. Report Abuse
Reply:But thank you for the attempted answer! Report Abuse
So if you thought you could obtain an attorney's pass and smuggle a gun through the checkpoint, forgetaboutit, it's more likely that you could get in by impersonating a police officer. (A 0.000001 per cent probability is greater than the zero chance you have of getting a securepass if you are not really and truly a lawyer in good standing.
How do attorneys get id cards to bypass metal detectors at the Daley Center court in Chicago?
Actually I looked into it more and that's not right Cybershark. You need your ARDC card, a photo id, and a check for $20. 7th Floor of Daley Center - get it right there, no wait, no mailing you anything, etc. Report Abuse
Reply:But thank you for the attempted answer! Report Abuse
When is the US going to start issuing the government ID cards containing the RFID chips?
More importantly, when is some guy gonna be standing next to you somewhere or walk by with a portable wand type reader in his bag of groceries
How long before they can sit in a van with darkened windows and use a small parabolic dish antenna to read your info as you walk by from several feet
Watch the identity theft skyrocket
When is the US going to start issuing the government ID cards containing the RFID chips?
Urban legend. The Real ID act sets minimum standards for state issued drivers licenses to be considered valid IDs. Sorry no RFID chips
Reply:Soon. Put them in the microwave for five seconds. Do this three times, and it will destroy the RFID.
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Reply:It's different in every state; some have filed and been granted an extention.
http://www.ncsl.org/realid/
Reply:Well I already have my Real ID Driver's license.. NC.
How long before they can sit in a van with darkened windows and use a small parabolic dish antenna to read your info as you walk by from several feet
Watch the identity theft skyrocket
When is the US going to start issuing the government ID cards containing the RFID chips?
Urban legend. The Real ID act sets minimum standards for state issued drivers licenses to be considered valid IDs. Sorry no RFID chips
Reply:Soon. Put them in the microwave for five seconds. Do this three times, and it will destroy the RFID.
:-o
Reply:It's different in every state; some have filed and been granted an extention.
http://www.ncsl.org/realid/
Reply:Well I already have my Real ID Driver's license.. NC.
Why does my name in documents such as ID cards,Passports and others appear in capital letters?
I've just realized this today but I can't find a plausible explanation.
I've also come upon a video which says that having your name in capital letters is a term called Capitus Diminutio Maxima, which states that a man's condition changes from freedom to bondage(meaning that I waive all of my rights), but I don't think this is true and the idea is pretty far fetched.
Why does my name in documents such as ID cards,Passports and others appear in capital letters?
The reason is fairly pragmatic. In the early days of computers, printers only printed in CAPS. Thus when passenger lists, warning lists or any other kind of list was needed to be produced, it was always in all CAPS.
Many official documents were similarly printed. Also, having all CAPS helps those who don't speak or read the native language well to match up names on these lists.
It was purely for governmental convenience.
I've also come upon a video which says that having your name in capital letters is a term called Capitus Diminutio Maxima, which states that a man's condition changes from freedom to bondage(meaning that I waive all of my rights), but I don't think this is true and the idea is pretty far fetched.
Why does my name in documents such as ID cards,Passports and others appear in capital letters?
The reason is fairly pragmatic. In the early days of computers, printers only printed in CAPS. Thus when passenger lists, warning lists or any other kind of list was needed to be produced, it was always in all CAPS.
Many official documents were similarly printed. Also, having all CAPS helps those who don't speak or read the native language well to match up names on these lists.
It was purely for governmental convenience.
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
What is this card supposed to do? How does this card affect illegals and US citizens?What's the real reason for this card?Is it a good thing or a bad thing? How much are US taxpayers paying for this?
What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
What is a valid US citizen? One is either a US citizen or not.
These cards would be issued to all legally present in the US, nothing to do with being a US citizen or not. That's what a passport is for!
basically it is an ID card with higher security measures than some states already have.
Reply:This is why there's such a big fuss over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVM...
Reply:It's a waste of money at all.
It will a pain for Us.
"DUDE YOU ARE CUTTING THE LINE!
Reply:It makes it an expensive pain in the rear for US citizens. Supposedly it will make it nearly impossible for illegals to get ID. As far as I know illegals aren't getting in line to get ID cards anyway. It's a waste of time and money to everyone.
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What's the big fuss over the REAL ID cards? How does this affect illegals and valid US citizens?
What is a valid US citizen? One is either a US citizen or not.
These cards would be issued to all legally present in the US, nothing to do with being a US citizen or not. That's what a passport is for!
basically it is an ID card with higher security measures than some states already have.
Reply:This is why there's such a big fuss over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVM...
Reply:It's a waste of money at all.
It will a pain for Us.
"DUDE YOU ARE CUTTING THE LINE!
Reply:It makes it an expensive pain in the rear for US citizens. Supposedly it will make it nearly impossible for illegals to get ID. As far as I know illegals aren't getting in line to get ID cards anyway. It's a waste of time and money to everyone.
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What do you think about the ID cards for illegals?
Has anyone read this? Id's for illegals? I can't believe my eyes!
What do you think about the ID cards for illegals?
I think it is a good idea. Illegals are humans and deserve to be treated and respected as.
Reply:first of all i notice the ignorance portrayed by many here. my three pointers........
1)if u so smart(figure out how to send back 12 million plus people back home).
2)what does border security mean?
Note: it doesnt mean building a huge fence, the usa would be a hypocrite to teven condsider this option WE CONDEMNED ISREAL for the same thing.
3)would u be ready to cut grasses, farm,construction, for under 7 dollars with no benefit whatsover?
Reply:creep, and you know we are not going to get it, because we have been denied anything and everything that may help us, no what you can't beleive your eyes is the fact, that your sweet goverment, and wao the Department of Homeland Security you people created, couldn't stop, the ID'S for all the fanatics that came down here to blow the WTC, and they even had permits flight, driver liscence and many more, Now deal with that one, but when it comes to majority of inmigrants, that only come here to work and not hurt anybody, you can not give that little help, ENJOY IT.
Reply:Not at all a good ideal. By issuing the ID cards, illegals can not be made legal immigrants in any country. Forget it.
Reply:How about jail for illegals? Why should they get IDs? They aren't suppose to be here.
Besides, many already have IDs. OK, they are forged, but they are IDs!
Reply:Stupid idea!! Just send them home!Why should we acknowledge them at all? Why waste more money on ID's ect. ?
Reply:No. Just by being "illegal" means you are not legal and should go back to your homeland. There is not enough employment, health care, housing, and education for more immigration AT THIS TIME. Mexico should work on becoming better for their citizens, so they stay there.
And, by the way, ever notice how people are so anti-American, but they want to live here? What's up with that?
Reply:It would be a waist of time. Forget the cards and make them get legal or go back to Mexico.
Reply:You know what? Pi** on our government, republicans and democrats alike!
Reply:back on the bus guss
Reply:Cards wouldn't work.What about microchips like we have injected into our pets that could be read with a scanner .But instead of just injecting it uder the skin inject it directly int the brain or so close to the spinal cord that atempting to remove it would either kill or paralize the individual.
Reply:Load them up ship them to iraq, any one making it easier for them to say should be charged with treason.
Reply:There already is one. The one they get from the consulate. All they have to have proof of is a birth certificate. With that card they can open a bank account and everything else.
Reply:At the turn of the 20th century mexico was one of the richest nations in the world. then the mexican mafia took control, does anybody know whos behind the great invasion?
Reply:why is the gov so screwed up? if i break the law i go to jail,why do mexicans think they should be any different
Reply:They can get ID cards I think in Oklahoma. I was getting an Id for my daughter to fly and they said I couldn't write a check for an ID but I could for anything else. I asked why and the director said that so many Mexicans write hot checks for their Id's that they had to go to cash only on ID's. I was hot because I had to go find an ATM. Don't really know if she meant legal or illegal. Here in Okla they let them take the drivers test in spanish. That is so not right!!!!!!!!!!! Our signs are in english.
Reply:i dont believe they should get the ids. First of all people are defending the fact that they are here because the yare hard workers and a majot to the work force. but i believe that once they become citizens they will become lazy just like the rest of america. they only work as hard as they do because they are being paid under wages. but once they get citizenship thir wages will have to increas sneding our economy in a major decline.
Reply:Only the federal government can give immigrants ID cards or the Office of the Attorney General I should say.
What do you think about the ID cards for illegals?
I think it is a good idea. Illegals are humans and deserve to be treated and respected as.
Reply:first of all i notice the ignorance portrayed by many here. my three pointers........
1)if u so smart(figure out how to send back 12 million plus people back home).
2)what does border security mean?
Note: it doesnt mean building a huge fence, the usa would be a hypocrite to teven condsider this option WE CONDEMNED ISREAL for the same thing.
3)would u be ready to cut grasses, farm,construction, for under 7 dollars with no benefit whatsover?
Reply:creep, and you know we are not going to get it, because we have been denied anything and everything that may help us, no what you can't beleive your eyes is the fact, that your sweet goverment, and wao the Department of Homeland Security you people created, couldn't stop, the ID'S for all the fanatics that came down here to blow the WTC, and they even had permits flight, driver liscence and many more, Now deal with that one, but when it comes to majority of inmigrants, that only come here to work and not hurt anybody, you can not give that little help, ENJOY IT.
Reply:Not at all a good ideal. By issuing the ID cards, illegals can not be made legal immigrants in any country. Forget it.
Reply:How about jail for illegals? Why should they get IDs? They aren't suppose to be here.
Besides, many already have IDs. OK, they are forged, but they are IDs!
Reply:Stupid idea!! Just send them home!Why should we acknowledge them at all? Why waste more money on ID's ect. ?
Reply:No. Just by being "illegal" means you are not legal and should go back to your homeland. There is not enough employment, health care, housing, and education for more immigration AT THIS TIME. Mexico should work on becoming better for their citizens, so they stay there.
And, by the way, ever notice how people are so anti-American, but they want to live here? What's up with that?
Reply:It would be a waist of time. Forget the cards and make them get legal or go back to Mexico.
Reply:You know what? Pi** on our government, republicans and democrats alike!
Reply:back on the bus guss
Reply:Cards wouldn't work.What about microchips like we have injected into our pets that could be read with a scanner .But instead of just injecting it uder the skin inject it directly int the brain or so close to the spinal cord that atempting to remove it would either kill or paralize the individual.
Reply:Load them up ship them to iraq, any one making it easier for them to say should be charged with treason.
Reply:There already is one. The one they get from the consulate. All they have to have proof of is a birth certificate. With that card they can open a bank account and everything else.
Reply:At the turn of the 20th century mexico was one of the richest nations in the world. then the mexican mafia took control, does anybody know whos behind the great invasion?
Reply:why is the gov so screwed up? if i break the law i go to jail,why do mexicans think they should be any different
Reply:They can get ID cards I think in Oklahoma. I was getting an Id for my daughter to fly and they said I couldn't write a check for an ID but I could for anything else. I asked why and the director said that so many Mexicans write hot checks for their Id's that they had to go to cash only on ID's. I was hot because I had to go find an ATM. Don't really know if she meant legal or illegal. Here in Okla they let them take the drivers test in spanish. That is so not right!!!!!!!!!!! Our signs are in english.
Reply:i dont believe they should get the ids. First of all people are defending the fact that they are here because the yare hard workers and a majot to the work force. but i believe that once they become citizens they will become lazy just like the rest of america. they only work as hard as they do because they are being paid under wages. but once they get citizenship thir wages will have to increas sneding our economy in a major decline.
Reply:Only the federal government can give immigrants ID cards or the Office of the Attorney General I should say.
Why are Britons and Americans so paranoid about national ID cards?
Yes, I realise your concerns about privacy, government control, inconvenience, and what you might call the "road down the slippery slope" to the end of freedom of movement.
May I bring to your attention, however, that national ID cards are a fact of life in almost every country apart from the UK and US.
Countries in which national ID cards are used and compulsory (either by law or in practice) include France, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Hong Kong, South Korea, etc.
Indeed, the majority of the world's democracies have national identity cards. Your paranoid fears have NOT materialised in these countries.
People in France can still go about their daily lives as they wish, without constant interference or surveillance by the government.
In Hong Kong, the ID card is a great convenience: it allows for 5-second automatic immigration clearance at the airport and other entry ponts. Besides, proving your identity at banks and such is a lot easier with national ID.
Why are Britons and Americans so paranoid about national ID cards?
Hong Kong? Aren't you under the auspices of the Chinese communist government? Let's say it goes against our grain, against our right to privacy and freedom. Why should the government want to trace our daily lives as if we are a bunch of terrorists? It seems as if the government is paranoid, not its people. It's more government interference in the lives of ordinary citizens. That makes it more dangerous. The US government also wants to know what books you checkout at the library. This is another step in line of more control and smacks of Biblical prophecy of the "mark of the beast" concepts. If you don't possess this "card" you will be unable to get a job, cash checks, conduct in commerce, etc. What other countries do is their internal business. As for the US, I think it's an intrusion.
Reply:In Britain public opinion is divided over compulsory ID cards. Some people see it as an invasion of privacy, human rights etc. while others believe it is essential for security and point to World War 2 when Britons had to carry them.
Personally I am opposed to compulsory ID cards for above reasons and because I do not think they will prevent crime, terrorism, etc. They have not done so in Europe where most countries have them.
I have seen it from both sides as I am British but lived abroad for a while and had to carry compulsory ID.
I think the fairest way to decide such an issue would be a referendum, trouble is the British government is not very good at holding those.
May I bring to your attention, however, that national ID cards are a fact of life in almost every country apart from the UK and US.
Countries in which national ID cards are used and compulsory (either by law or in practice) include France, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Hong Kong, South Korea, etc.
Indeed, the majority of the world's democracies have national identity cards. Your paranoid fears have NOT materialised in these countries.
People in France can still go about their daily lives as they wish, without constant interference or surveillance by the government.
In Hong Kong, the ID card is a great convenience: it allows for 5-second automatic immigration clearance at the airport and other entry ponts. Besides, proving your identity at banks and such is a lot easier with national ID.
Why are Britons and Americans so paranoid about national ID cards?
Hong Kong? Aren't you under the auspices of the Chinese communist government? Let's say it goes against our grain, against our right to privacy and freedom. Why should the government want to trace our daily lives as if we are a bunch of terrorists? It seems as if the government is paranoid, not its people. It's more government interference in the lives of ordinary citizens. That makes it more dangerous. The US government also wants to know what books you checkout at the library. This is another step in line of more control and smacks of Biblical prophecy of the "mark of the beast" concepts. If you don't possess this "card" you will be unable to get a job, cash checks, conduct in commerce, etc. What other countries do is their internal business. As for the US, I think it's an intrusion.
Reply:In Britain public opinion is divided over compulsory ID cards. Some people see it as an invasion of privacy, human rights etc. while others believe it is essential for security and point to World War 2 when Britons had to carry them.
Personally I am opposed to compulsory ID cards for above reasons and because I do not think they will prevent crime, terrorism, etc. They have not done so in Europe where most countries have them.
I have seen it from both sides as I am British but lived abroad for a while and had to carry compulsory ID.
I think the fairest way to decide such an issue would be a referendum, trouble is the British government is not very good at holding those.
Do 21 & above clubs in US accecpt International ID cards or International Driver's licenses?
I want to know if night clubs in USA accecpt other ID cards apart from US ID cards.
Do 21 %26amp; above clubs in US accecpt International ID cards or International Driver's licenses?
This will vary from one club to the next. It is important that the identification have your photo on it, and that it have your birth date on it - and that the birth date be clear to whoever is looking at the document. So, if your international driver's license is chinese, for example, you may need a translation of it (the International Driving Permit, for example).
Please know that there is not a national or even state law or custom that determines how all clubs implement the requirement that they allow only people aged 21 and older, so there may be clubs that will not accept such identification (especially if it is not in English). You should check with the club itself - or be prepared to go to several.
Reply:I think they do accept foreign ID cards but be warned they will most likley ask you questions to see if you know all of your stuff. A lot of clubs are like that now to see if you have a fake ID or not. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Reply:They SHOULD accept any form of photo ID that has your birthdate on it. If they actually will depends largely on the guy working the door. I have had to find a different bar because the bouncer didn't want to accept my out of state ID.
Your best bet would be to take at least 2 forms of photo ID with your birthday on it and hope for a bouncer who isn't a moron.
Do 21 %26amp; above clubs in US accecpt International ID cards or International Driver's licenses?
This will vary from one club to the next. It is important that the identification have your photo on it, and that it have your birth date on it - and that the birth date be clear to whoever is looking at the document. So, if your international driver's license is chinese, for example, you may need a translation of it (the International Driving Permit, for example).
Please know that there is not a national or even state law or custom that determines how all clubs implement the requirement that they allow only people aged 21 and older, so there may be clubs that will not accept such identification (especially if it is not in English). You should check with the club itself - or be prepared to go to several.
Reply:I think they do accept foreign ID cards but be warned they will most likley ask you questions to see if you know all of your stuff. A lot of clubs are like that now to see if you have a fake ID or not. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Reply:They SHOULD accept any form of photo ID that has your birthdate on it. If they actually will depends largely on the guy working the door. I have had to find a different bar because the bouncer didn't want to accept my out of state ID.
Your best bet would be to take at least 2 forms of photo ID with your birthday on it and hope for a bouncer who isn't a moron.
What are your thoughts on National ID Cards and RFID Chips?
I heard that all new passports have this RFID chips in them and they can track you from this chip.
Also, the National ID's are supposed to be in the works this year. Again, with an RFID Chip.
The conspricay theorist say that in the future they are going to chip all products in stores and all money so they will know exaclty how much money you have and what you bought.
Are people willing to give up there privacy for so call "security"?
What are your thoughts on National ID Cards and RFID Chips?
I am not willing. They are already tracking the public.
Reply:It's a rumor, probably from some religious nut who is worried about mark of the beast 666, etc.
Reply:There are RFID chips in passports but it is just a security device which hold information, they do not track you. My new passport has one and all it holds is the information in my passport
Reply:The National ID is already in play. So far 3 states have opted out. This is a perfect example of a government run amok. This is just one more reason I dislike Bush and Cheney so intensely.
Reply:It will provide a false sense of security to have the government know your every habit. We need LESS government not more tools for government to use against us.
Reply:I already have a National ID card, Social Security! No one is ever going to put a chip in me, however if I should happen to have dementia or Alzheimer's, it might be nice if my family could track me if I happened to stray! But that would be their choice, not mine! I don't happen to want to give the government any more control over me than they absolutely must have to protect this country! I hate losing my rights, it always starts small %26amp; for your own good!
Reply:The cards are a good idea but the RFID chips idea scare me!
Reply:Ever heard of your social security card or driver's license? It is a national ID card. I do not see the big deal behind this. If the government thinks that issuing these will make our lives operate more smoothly, then so be it. The government is going to do what they want. If you do not like it, vote and elect people who hold the same opinions as you.
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Also, the National ID's are supposed to be in the works this year. Again, with an RFID Chip.
The conspricay theorist say that in the future they are going to chip all products in stores and all money so they will know exaclty how much money you have and what you bought.
Are people willing to give up there privacy for so call "security"?
What are your thoughts on National ID Cards and RFID Chips?
I am not willing. They are already tracking the public.
Reply:It's a rumor, probably from some religious nut who is worried about mark of the beast 666, etc.
Reply:There are RFID chips in passports but it is just a security device which hold information, they do not track you. My new passport has one and all it holds is the information in my passport
Reply:The National ID is already in play. So far 3 states have opted out. This is a perfect example of a government run amok. This is just one more reason I dislike Bush and Cheney so intensely.
Reply:It will provide a false sense of security to have the government know your every habit. We need LESS government not more tools for government to use against us.
Reply:I already have a National ID card, Social Security! No one is ever going to put a chip in me, however if I should happen to have dementia or Alzheimer's, it might be nice if my family could track me if I happened to stray! But that would be their choice, not mine! I don't happen to want to give the government any more control over me than they absolutely must have to protect this country! I hate losing my rights, it always starts small %26amp; for your own good!
Reply:The cards are a good idea but the RFID chips idea scare me!
Reply:Ever heard of your social security card or driver's license? It is a national ID card. I do not see the big deal behind this. If the government thinks that issuing these will make our lives operate more smoothly, then so be it. The government is going to do what they want. If you do not like it, vote and elect people who hold the same opinions as you.
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Why do Iraqi ID cards show people's religions when gunmen use it to single out victims?
I've seen several news stories that state that gunmen in Iraq have stopped buses, checked the ID cards of the passengers, and then murdered the people whose religion they disliked. It seems fairly obvious that the Iraqi government should be issuing a new type of ID card that DOESN'T say people's religions so that it wouldn't be so easy for gunmen to choose their victims. Why hasn't either the US or Iraqi governments undertaken this glaringly obvious necessary action?
Why do Iraqi ID cards show people's religions when gunmen use it to single out victims?
A person's surname is how they tell if the person is Shiite or Sunni.
Reply:Nobody has accused ANYONE involved in that mess as being very smart.
I thought the same thing when I saw the latest news.
Why do Iraqi ID cards show people's religions when gunmen use it to single out victims?
A person's surname is how they tell if the person is Shiite or Sunni.
Reply:Nobody has accused ANYONE involved in that mess as being very smart.
I thought the same thing when I saw the latest news.
I need to know more about national Id cards in the USA. What are national Id cards?
Why do we need national id cards? What information is on the card? Is it safe? will it cause problems with the police and will they misuse the cards?
I need to know more about national Id cards in the USA. What are national Id cards?
The Real ID Act will make states check 2 or more security measures to make sure you are a legal citizen and eligible for an ID. Your picture will also be taken at the beginning of the process incase you fail to pass the security measures your file will be kept.
Some people believe that they will have a microchip in them, but this assumption is false, they will not have a chip. States will get tot choose froma list of measures they want to implement in the verification process.
Hey I am just stating the facts, I did not say wether I was for this or against it.
I cannot find anywhere that is says you will need it to buy groceries, but employers cant hire employes without it and financial institutions wont be able to offer services to you unless you have one.
Reply:The whole idea of the Real Id Act smakes of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China.
Reply:Most likely authority will misuse the cards. The Bush administration is threatening the state governments that have completely rejected the Real ID. Come this May, those states' driver liscenses will not be accepted, which all citizens of those states will not be allowed to board planes or enter federally buildings.
If this is how the government is handling states that reject the Real ID, how do people think the government will treat the citizens after the Real ID is implemented?
The government knows that the Real ID will be worthless unless all states jump on board. Also, they can't stop those states' citizens from boarding planes and entering federal buildings. Its completely unconstitutional. The government going to get bold and call all those states' citizens terrorists? Yeah right, talk about a backlash.
Edit:
P.S. Its currently just being used for boarding planes and entering federal buildings. Basically, the Real ID is taking the place of the new passport they already created and are using. After the Real ID is fully implemented, it will apply to employment, buying food, water, anything and everything. I guess they left this little part out.
Reply:what it means is that our high priced fancy government ($7 trillion at the federal level last year) is so inept at doing even the most basic things that they now need to treat us all like criminals.
when i was a kid, we laughed (as a nation) at the soviet union for thinking this way.
now, when we question it, we are called unpatriotic.
time to sweep the vermin out of washington dc.
I need to know more about national Id cards in the USA. What are national Id cards?
The Real ID Act will make states check 2 or more security measures to make sure you are a legal citizen and eligible for an ID. Your picture will also be taken at the beginning of the process incase you fail to pass the security measures your file will be kept.
Some people believe that they will have a microchip in them, but this assumption is false, they will not have a chip. States will get tot choose froma list of measures they want to implement in the verification process.
Hey I am just stating the facts, I did not say wether I was for this or against it.
I cannot find anywhere that is says you will need it to buy groceries, but employers cant hire employes without it and financial institutions wont be able to offer services to you unless you have one.
Reply:The whole idea of the Real Id Act smakes of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China.
Reply:Most likely authority will misuse the cards. The Bush administration is threatening the state governments that have completely rejected the Real ID. Come this May, those states' driver liscenses will not be accepted, which all citizens of those states will not be allowed to board planes or enter federally buildings.
If this is how the government is handling states that reject the Real ID, how do people think the government will treat the citizens after the Real ID is implemented?
The government knows that the Real ID will be worthless unless all states jump on board. Also, they can't stop those states' citizens from boarding planes and entering federal buildings. Its completely unconstitutional. The government going to get bold and call all those states' citizens terrorists? Yeah right, talk about a backlash.
Edit:
P.S. Its currently just being used for boarding planes and entering federal buildings. Basically, the Real ID is taking the place of the new passport they already created and are using. After the Real ID is fully implemented, it will apply to employment, buying food, water, anything and everything. I guess they left this little part out.
Reply:what it means is that our high priced fancy government ($7 trillion at the federal level last year) is so inept at doing even the most basic things that they now need to treat us all like criminals.
when i was a kid, we laughed (as a nation) at the soviet union for thinking this way.
now, when we question it, we are called unpatriotic.
time to sweep the vermin out of washington dc.
What do washington id cards look like?
i have a project where i have to make id cards based on the characters in my book i am reading for lauguage arts class. I want to know what they look like and like what the colors are stuff like that. i also want to know the infromation i need on the card if you can help, PLEASE DO!
What do washington id cards look like?
Are you serious? Your teacher wants you to make fake IDs for school?
Reply:washington state or washington dc? why dont you do a google image search? that should work...
Hope I helped!
What do washington id cards look like?
Are you serious? Your teacher wants you to make fake IDs for school?
Reply:washington state or washington dc? why dont you do a google image search? that should work...
Hope I helped!
(U.K) Can anyone give me a list of UK Id Cards accepted in shops for purchase of over-age items?
I'm getting myself an ID so i can finally buy cigarette's -- Only trouble is i don't have a clue where to apply, what the cards look like, and what are the ones most accepted by shops?
If anyone could please post the site where to apply for one.
And secondly does anyone know where i can find a picture of what they look like?
(U.K) Can anyone give me a list of UK Id Cards accepted in shops for purchase of over-age items?
A driving liceince or provisional liceince card wil be accepted in most places. To get a provisional liceince you don't need any experiance of driving - just go to your nearests post office and ask them to give you a form.
If you're in school or higher education they will probably have information on schemes you can join up to, though neither the Ucas card or the Connexions card will be accepte din many places. But again, ask in your school office for information.
Otherwise, theres alot of schemes:
http://www.citizencard.com/
http://www.validateuk.co.uk/
http://www.portmangroup.org.uk/campaigns...
The webites have pictures of the cards on them, and say their accepted in msot places.
In worst case scenario, you could always use your passport, though thats less likely to be accepted if its from another country and doesn't look like our passports do.
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If anyone could please post the site where to apply for one.
And secondly does anyone know where i can find a picture of what they look like?
(U.K) Can anyone give me a list of UK Id Cards accepted in shops for purchase of over-age items?
A driving liceince or provisional liceince card wil be accepted in most places. To get a provisional liceince you don't need any experiance of driving - just go to your nearests post office and ask them to give you a form.
If you're in school or higher education they will probably have information on schemes you can join up to, though neither the Ucas card or the Connexions card will be accepte din many places. But again, ask in your school office for information.
Otherwise, theres alot of schemes:
http://www.citizencard.com/
http://www.validateuk.co.uk/
http://www.portmangroup.org.uk/campaigns...
The webites have pictures of the cards on them, and say their accepted in msot places.
In worst case scenario, you could always use your passport, though thats less likely to be accepted if its from another country and doesn't look like our passports do.
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Do you see a problem with ID cards that have P O Boxes for an address?
Are officials accepting and issuing anonymous ID cards with such address even in this era?
Do you see a problem with ID cards that have P O Boxes for an address?
no its one less way big brother can keep track of you.
Reply:I still see IDs with P.O Boxes for addresses. But I also see a lot of businesses that won't accept a check from you if it has a P.O Box for an address.
Reply:Yes, I see a huge problem with that.... who lives inside a mailbox anyhow??!! All joking aside, if you have a home and physical address and a hard-copy ID card, what's the issue with actually having you address on it? This is one of the "good" or "acceptable" times for authorities to know who lives where. It is an asset to fight terrorism internally, fight crime and aide in the immigration issue as well.
Just because the Government knows where you live and who you are, doesn't mean they plan to take away your freedom, spy on you, conspire against us.... For God's Sakes take off the TinFoil hats already and join the rest of the world!!!
Reply:NO, I am from a town where there are no street addresses, now if I couldn't put a P.O Box what should I have put, Farm on the left 10 miles west of town, take a left, drive three more miles, it is the white house? I mean we got all our mail at a post office that was 16 miles away, how were we supposed to have a street address? I don't think that they should require a street address unless you have one, I know of a lot of companies that wont ship to P.O Boxs, what about the people that live in small towns and on farms around the US.
Reply:to me nothing wornge with that .why and for what reason you should know my home address and i do too?
Reply:There should be no problem with this, but I have heard of some.
If you need to use a P.O. Box, rent one from a private mailbox service...Then you can just use the address of the service and put "#123" (whatever box number you get) after it like it was an apartment number and no one will ever know it isn't an apartment.
Not only is this a good way to avoid using your actual street address, but P.O. boxes won't accept UPS or FEDEX shipments and the private service will. Also your mail is kept indoors out of the weather and away from mailbox pilferers.
Reply:No.
Reply:Not long ago, I had a drivers License with only my PO Box # on it. I explained I would be moving soon. The clerk suggested I use my street address on my vehicle registration since I have to get a new one every year. It has worked out pretty well, since I ended up moving more than once. Seems the landlords kept selling the houses out from under me. That tends to happen when real estate prices go through the roof.
I'm in Fla. The laws may be different in your state.
Do you see a problem with ID cards that have P O Boxes for an address?
no its one less way big brother can keep track of you.
Reply:I still see IDs with P.O Boxes for addresses. But I also see a lot of businesses that won't accept a check from you if it has a P.O Box for an address.
Reply:Yes, I see a huge problem with that.... who lives inside a mailbox anyhow??!! All joking aside, if you have a home and physical address and a hard-copy ID card, what's the issue with actually having you address on it? This is one of the "good" or "acceptable" times for authorities to know who lives where. It is an asset to fight terrorism internally, fight crime and aide in the immigration issue as well.
Just because the Government knows where you live and who you are, doesn't mean they plan to take away your freedom, spy on you, conspire against us.... For God's Sakes take off the TinFoil hats already and join the rest of the world!!!
Reply:NO, I am from a town where there are no street addresses, now if I couldn't put a P.O Box what should I have put, Farm on the left 10 miles west of town, take a left, drive three more miles, it is the white house? I mean we got all our mail at a post office that was 16 miles away, how were we supposed to have a street address? I don't think that they should require a street address unless you have one, I know of a lot of companies that wont ship to P.O Boxs, what about the people that live in small towns and on farms around the US.
Reply:to me nothing wornge with that .why and for what reason you should know my home address and i do too?
Reply:There should be no problem with this, but I have heard of some.
If you need to use a P.O. Box, rent one from a private mailbox service...Then you can just use the address of the service and put "#123" (whatever box number you get) after it like it was an apartment number and no one will ever know it isn't an apartment.
Not only is this a good way to avoid using your actual street address, but P.O. boxes won't accept UPS or FEDEX shipments and the private service will. Also your mail is kept indoors out of the weather and away from mailbox pilferers.
Reply:No.
Reply:Not long ago, I had a drivers License with only my PO Box # on it. I explained I would be moving soon. The clerk suggested I use my street address on my vehicle registration since I have to get a new one every year. It has worked out pretty well, since I ended up moving more than once. Seems the landlords kept selling the houses out from under me. That tends to happen when real estate prices go through the roof.
I'm in Fla. The laws may be different in your state.
Do you think having ID cards in the UK is a good thing?
The current government is determined to bring in compulsary ID cards for all citizens which will cost the british people around £20 billion. To my knowledge no one wants the ID cards but the government have ignored petitions, protests, and concerns against the system.
Do you think the implementation of the ID cards is a good thing and why?
Do you think having ID cards in the UK is a good thing?
The British and U.S. government's are way to intrusive on their citizens. The U.S. has learned much of this from the Brits. NWO is inevitable!!!
Reply:Identification cards should not be the norm internationally, as a matter of fact, driver licenses should also be international. International ID card is now needed due to the ever growing threat of global terrorism.
Reply:personnally i agree with government, i have nothing against foreigners (cos i m one of them) but u can see that most of them are working n living here illigally... this should stop before UK is like a swamp
another issue is about human rights to have a private life, like government is going too deep into citezens lives. but then again if there is nothing to hide from authority logically u shouldnt be afraid to give ur details or being constantly monitored
take a look at CCTV we already in Big Brother style life
so id agree with the idea, no matter if it takes £20 Billion or more, this country is rich enough to go this way in order to protect its citizens
Reply:Yes, a great idea. Even though I'm not from the UK. I'd like to see it in the US. If you are a citizen of the UK and have the ID to prove it, then you should be entitled to the benefits of that country. If you don't have one, then you should be denied those same benefits. Granted it may have cost 20 billion pounds (although that seems a bit high, since there aren't 20 billion people in the UK and that would mean that the cost of one ID is more than 1 pound a piece). How much money would the UK save, if illegals didn't have access to those benefits? Probably 200 billion pounds.
Reply:It is good because the British introduced ID cards in Singapore and Malaya during the Communist Emergency to ID the communist terrorists who had no ID cards as they were in the jungle.
It is very ironic that in the UK , they still have no ID cards and use the Driving Licence. In this age of terrorism and international criminals, ID cards are de rigeur and no innocent person would object. On the other hand those who have evil on their minds, of course, would object because they would not want to be IDed for their crimes.
Reply:it's a good thing, so american companies who make the ID cards will make more money to improve our domestic GDP
Do you think the implementation of the ID cards is a good thing and why?
Do you think having ID cards in the UK is a good thing?
The British and U.S. government's are way to intrusive on their citizens. The U.S. has learned much of this from the Brits. NWO is inevitable!!!
Reply:Identification cards should not be the norm internationally, as a matter of fact, driver licenses should also be international. International ID card is now needed due to the ever growing threat of global terrorism.
Reply:personnally i agree with government, i have nothing against foreigners (cos i m one of them) but u can see that most of them are working n living here illigally... this should stop before UK is like a swamp
another issue is about human rights to have a private life, like government is going too deep into citezens lives. but then again if there is nothing to hide from authority logically u shouldnt be afraid to give ur details or being constantly monitored
take a look at CCTV we already in Big Brother style life
so id agree with the idea, no matter if it takes £20 Billion or more, this country is rich enough to go this way in order to protect its citizens
Reply:Yes, a great idea. Even though I'm not from the UK. I'd like to see it in the US. If you are a citizen of the UK and have the ID to prove it, then you should be entitled to the benefits of that country. If you don't have one, then you should be denied those same benefits. Granted it may have cost 20 billion pounds (although that seems a bit high, since there aren't 20 billion people in the UK and that would mean that the cost of one ID is more than 1 pound a piece). How much money would the UK save, if illegals didn't have access to those benefits? Probably 200 billion pounds.
Reply:It is good because the British introduced ID cards in Singapore and Malaya during the Communist Emergency to ID the communist terrorists who had no ID cards as they were in the jungle.
It is very ironic that in the UK , they still have no ID cards and use the Driving Licence. In this age of terrorism and international criminals, ID cards are de rigeur and no innocent person would object. On the other hand those who have evil on their minds, of course, would object because they would not want to be IDed for their crimes.
Reply:it's a good thing, so american companies who make the ID cards will make more money to improve our domestic GDP
Can photocopying ruin the magnetic strip on ID cards?
I need to make a copy of my student ID card. I was wondering if copying it will ruin the magnetic strip? I use the card daily for parking, vending machines, etc and would hate to have to go through the hassle of getting a new card cause the copy machine ruined the magnetic strip!
Anyone know?
Can photocopying ruin the magnetic strip on ID cards?
no you are fine dude if it make you feel better don't photo copy the side with the strip on it.
you need a magnit to wipe out the strip. They use them in stores to wipe at the strip that sets off the alarms by the doors so keep your card away from that.
hope this helps
-David-
Reply:i dont believe it does because only another magnetic field can ruin it
like sliding across the electromagnet at a checkstand
but im not sure if there is one in a photocopier
ask the librarian
Reply:they are safe
Reply:no....Copy machines use light and reflection.
Reply:Photostatic copiers work because there is a metal drum that is sensative to light inside the copier. A light is passed across the opject being photo copied, which causes the metal drum to heat up in the areas that the light doesn't shine on. In other words, the white areas of the image doesn't cause the drum to heat up, but the dark areas do. Toner is then sprayed onto the drum and is transfered to the copy paper. Color copiers use yellow, magenta, and indigo toner to create other colors by mixing them.
The strip on the back of your license is magnetic, the only way it will be ruined by photocopying is if it falls into the drum area and gets melted. :)
By the way, color copiers are required by law to have a computer chip in them that won't allow the color of money to be copied.
Reply:No, a photocopier uses a light to make the copy hence the name PHOTOcopier. It takes a magnet or magnetic field to mess up the data on your card. You should be photocopying the front anyway and usually the magnetic strip is on the back.
X-ray machines will not damage magnetic media either.
Anyone know?
Can photocopying ruin the magnetic strip on ID cards?
no you are fine dude if it make you feel better don't photo copy the side with the strip on it.
you need a magnit to wipe out the strip. They use them in stores to wipe at the strip that sets off the alarms by the doors so keep your card away from that.
hope this helps
-David-
Reply:i dont believe it does because only another magnetic field can ruin it
like sliding across the electromagnet at a checkstand
but im not sure if there is one in a photocopier
ask the librarian
Reply:they are safe
Reply:no....Copy machines use light and reflection.
Reply:Photostatic copiers work because there is a metal drum that is sensative to light inside the copier. A light is passed across the opject being photo copied, which causes the metal drum to heat up in the areas that the light doesn't shine on. In other words, the white areas of the image doesn't cause the drum to heat up, but the dark areas do. Toner is then sprayed onto the drum and is transfered to the copy paper. Color copiers use yellow, magenta, and indigo toner to create other colors by mixing them.
The strip on the back of your license is magnetic, the only way it will be ruined by photocopying is if it falls into the drum area and gets melted. :)
By the way, color copiers are required by law to have a computer chip in them that won't allow the color of money to be copied.
Reply:No, a photocopier uses a light to make the copy hence the name PHOTOcopier. It takes a magnet or magnetic field to mess up the data on your card. You should be photocopying the front anyway and usually the magnetic strip is on the back.
X-ray machines will not damage magnetic media either.
What are your feelings about giving illegal immigrants ID cards?
New Haven CT, today, started to give illegal immigrants ID cards making it legal for them to use the libraries, public transportation, apply for a drivers liscence, etc. How do you feel about this? This is your tax dollars hard at work.
What are your feelings about giving illegal immigrants ID cards?
Frankly I am glad I don't live in New Haven. This law is an affront not only to citizens of the United States, but also to those who immigrate here legally and follow the process. What we have is a city openly defying the law of the land. I found it amusing that Americans for Legal Immigration PAC have circulated fliers with maps and directions on how to reach New Haven in 40 states encouraging illegals to move there. It should be fun to watch as illegals flock to the town and overwhelm their social service system.
Reply:THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW BY BEING HERE!
They should NOT get free health care, they should not get free educations, they should not be able to obtain jobs, and they should NOT BE GIVEN AN ID CARD to more easily do things they are not LEGALLY supposed to be doing.
I just heard that each ILLEGAL immigrant costs us taxpayers $20K a year. AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WORK!
Reply:huge mistake promoting lawlessness and rewarding illegal immigration is a slap in the face to anyone who has come here or wishes to legally.our forefathers never thought we would have illegal immigration to the point it is today or that so many would be breaking our laws to be here or that so many would have no morals or standards and we would support them and their out of wed lock children with our taxpayers money.or that NAFTA would take our jobs and send them to other countries like Mexico so they send our jobs away and they still come here illegally and take more of our jobs.they are lowering our standard of living and robbing us blind!if i were in charge i would use the ID crap to track them down and load them up on buses and drop them back off and they would never be allowed here again.if they come here and have kids but are not citizens then neither are their kids,they all go back! go back and fix your own country you are not wanted here!
Reply:I'll be happy about it when the illegals start taking away the jobs from the Libs who support this crap instead of blue collar jobs.
Reply:I would consider this as aiding and abetting criminal activity, possibly prosecutable under federal racketeering laws.
They should be issuing them handcuffs not ID cards.
Reply:New Haven will get what they deserve.........oh yeah
Reply:Instead of ID cards, why not a one way ticket back to their point of origin?
Reply:I think the U.S. Government needs to issue I.D. cards and make it a felony to hire them without transmitting an electronic check to the Gov verifying authenticity. Once we can ID them then we can ween them off their half dozen each SS cards and begin to turn them away from health care facilities and free bread %26amp; butter lines.If they are legally here, why would they object? Illegals imigrants need to be put in jail before deportation.
Reply:The people that do this should be dragged into the street and shot like a dog, then hung from the nearest lamppost or tree with a "I'm a traitor to America" sign hung on their neck.
Reply:about time people treat immigants like animals when all they do here is work there *** off unlike some people here...and if people supporting them are traitors how do u think god wanted things to be fro us to judge people from where they come from or what they bring to the table...and people against try to stop to think...can u do all the work immigrant i mean the jobs americans dont want to do for minimum wage?besides they arent immigrating because this is their home
Reply:about time
Reply:wasn't this country built upon immigration?
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What are your feelings about giving illegal immigrants ID cards?
Frankly I am glad I don't live in New Haven. This law is an affront not only to citizens of the United States, but also to those who immigrate here legally and follow the process. What we have is a city openly defying the law of the land. I found it amusing that Americans for Legal Immigration PAC have circulated fliers with maps and directions on how to reach New Haven in 40 states encouraging illegals to move there. It should be fun to watch as illegals flock to the town and overwhelm their social service system.
Reply:THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW BY BEING HERE!
They should NOT get free health care, they should not get free educations, they should not be able to obtain jobs, and they should NOT BE GIVEN AN ID CARD to more easily do things they are not LEGALLY supposed to be doing.
I just heard that each ILLEGAL immigrant costs us taxpayers $20K a year. AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WORK!
Reply:huge mistake promoting lawlessness and rewarding illegal immigration is a slap in the face to anyone who has come here or wishes to legally.our forefathers never thought we would have illegal immigration to the point it is today or that so many would be breaking our laws to be here or that so many would have no morals or standards and we would support them and their out of wed lock children with our taxpayers money.or that NAFTA would take our jobs and send them to other countries like Mexico so they send our jobs away and they still come here illegally and take more of our jobs.they are lowering our standard of living and robbing us blind!if i were in charge i would use the ID crap to track them down and load them up on buses and drop them back off and they would never be allowed here again.if they come here and have kids but are not citizens then neither are their kids,they all go back! go back and fix your own country you are not wanted here!
Reply:I'll be happy about it when the illegals start taking away the jobs from the Libs who support this crap instead of blue collar jobs.
Reply:I would consider this as aiding and abetting criminal activity, possibly prosecutable under federal racketeering laws.
They should be issuing them handcuffs not ID cards.
Reply:New Haven will get what they deserve.........oh yeah
Reply:Instead of ID cards, why not a one way ticket back to their point of origin?
Reply:I think the U.S. Government needs to issue I.D. cards and make it a felony to hire them without transmitting an electronic check to the Gov verifying authenticity. Once we can ID them then we can ween them off their half dozen each SS cards and begin to turn them away from health care facilities and free bread %26amp; butter lines.If they are legally here, why would they object? Illegals imigrants need to be put in jail before deportation.
Reply:The people that do this should be dragged into the street and shot like a dog, then hung from the nearest lamppost or tree with a "I'm a traitor to America" sign hung on their neck.
Reply:about time people treat immigants like animals when all they do here is work there *** off unlike some people here...and if people supporting them are traitors how do u think god wanted things to be fro us to judge people from where they come from or what they bring to the table...and people against try to stop to think...can u do all the work immigrant i mean the jobs americans dont want to do for minimum wage?besides they arent immigrating because this is their home
Reply:about time
Reply:wasn't this country built upon immigration?
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In the light of the recent information loss blunders, has anyone changed their opinions on uk id cards?
As a lot of people were apparently 'un-phased' by the uk government's scheme to bring in id cards and centralised national identity register, have the recent scandles involving the loss of millions and millions of peoples personal data changed your opinion?
If we are trusting the government to look after personal data and they have already shown incompetence. Do you feel that the bringing in id cards (and the register) will only make it easier for fraudsters?
In the light of the recent information loss blunders, has anyone changed their opinions on uk id cards?
Who said a lot of people were "unfazed"? If you mean a significant number are in favour then I agree with you. I am definitely not in favour, recent blunders or otherwise. I think the whole Idea is ridiculous and totally uneccessary, it will have no effect whatsoever on reducing terrorism or improving security. Billions have already been spent on it and they have still to produce a fool-proof system. My hope is that those who were in favour, or had no real opinion, will be against the idea after all these blunders have been exposed. As for fraudsters, it will only give them something else to steal and clone, only this time it will contain even more information on the individual.
Reply:No. I've always been opposed, and recent events have confirmed that opinion.
Reply:No, they stunk when the only lonely voice against them was the Lib Dems and they still stink now that the Tories and the papers are starting to wake up to the truth.
Reply:I've never been "unphased" by the introduction of I.D cards. I'm bitterly opposed to them. As I am to the biometric passport.
I think that no matter what reassurances the government give us, the fraudsters will find a way round it.
If we are trusting the government to look after personal data and they have already shown incompetence. Do you feel that the bringing in id cards (and the register) will only make it easier for fraudsters?
In the light of the recent information loss blunders, has anyone changed their opinions on uk id cards?
Who said a lot of people were "unfazed"? If you mean a significant number are in favour then I agree with you. I am definitely not in favour, recent blunders or otherwise. I think the whole Idea is ridiculous and totally uneccessary, it will have no effect whatsoever on reducing terrorism or improving security. Billions have already been spent on it and they have still to produce a fool-proof system. My hope is that those who were in favour, or had no real opinion, will be against the idea after all these blunders have been exposed. As for fraudsters, it will only give them something else to steal and clone, only this time it will contain even more information on the individual.
Reply:No. I've always been opposed, and recent events have confirmed that opinion.
Reply:No, they stunk when the only lonely voice against them was the Lib Dems and they still stink now that the Tories and the papers are starting to wake up to the truth.
Reply:I've never been "unphased" by the introduction of I.D cards. I'm bitterly opposed to them. As I am to the biometric passport.
I think that no matter what reassurances the government give us, the fraudsters will find a way round it.
Where can you get military dependant ID cards online?
Or, where can you get a dependent ID card in central Florida?
Please provide a link, or links. Thanks.
Where can you get military dependant ID cards online?
Cant get them online. But the link I gave you can put in you your state, zip, or city to find the nearest office to get an ID card.
http://www.dmdc.osd.mil/rsl/owa/home
Reply:Go to ANY military base. The Navy has bases in Orlando, Pensacola, JAX, Mayport, Key West. If none of those work try any other branch of the military. Use the white pages government section of your telephone book and call the admin department yourself.
Reply:You can't get it online as everyone else has stated but you do NOT have to have your sponsor with you. I've had to get 3 over the past 3 years and not once did my husband have to be with me. The first time I did have to have some paperwork (and it wasn't a POA it was something he got when he first enlisted) but after that all I needed was the old one.
By the way....if there's a reserve base near you then go there because the wait is almost nothing. I was in and out in less than 10 minutes with card in hand whereas when I took my son for his at a larger base it took almost 2 hours.
Reply:You can not get one online, you must go to a base...anyone really and get your ID there. No other way.
Reply:You cannot get one online, nor can you get one without the sponsor being with you. If the sponsor is unavailable due to deployment you must have a general power of attorney to get a card.
The RAPIDS office at nearby bases in your area should be contacted first before you go in and wait. They can tell you exactly what is needed before you get there. Also, many local National Guard units are able to issue ID cards with proper documentation.
postnote: If he hasn't been enrolled in DEERS the sponsor has to be with him or he will need orders and/or general power of attorney. Getting the POA is better because any forms that need the sponsor signature can be signed with it.
From the DEERS website at Fort Bragg ARMY base is the following.
► Two forms of Identification, e.g., Drivers license, passport, expired ID Card.
► General Power Of Attorney, Special Power of Attorney that includes DEERS and or ID Cards in the authority given in the Power Of Attorney OR a copy of the Soldier's federal or state mobilization/deployment orders.
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Reply:The above answer is correct. When you get the initial dependent card you do not need the sponsor there, you just need the DEERS paperwork stating you are new in the system and the paper that requests an ID for your dependent.
Reply:You can't get them online. you must go to a Military Base (regardless of which service's branch it is) and go to the ID Cards center.
Reply:You can't get them online, you have to go to a base. In central florida your closest base is probably going to be Patrick AFB in Satellite Beach (East Coast) or MacDill AFB in Tampa (west coast). There is also one base to south near Miami (Homestead) and three to the North (Tyndall, Hurlburt and Eglin).
You can go to a bses website by typing www.basename.af.mil. Like eglin is www.eglin.af.mil.
Reply:You can't get it online, but you can get one at any military base. Just do a search for bases near you. Good luck.
Please provide a link, or links. Thanks.
Where can you get military dependant ID cards online?
Cant get them online. But the link I gave you can put in you your state, zip, or city to find the nearest office to get an ID card.
http://www.dmdc.osd.mil/rsl/owa/home
Reply:Go to ANY military base. The Navy has bases in Orlando, Pensacola, JAX, Mayport, Key West. If none of those work try any other branch of the military. Use the white pages government section of your telephone book and call the admin department yourself.
Reply:You can't get it online as everyone else has stated but you do NOT have to have your sponsor with you. I've had to get 3 over the past 3 years and not once did my husband have to be with me. The first time I did have to have some paperwork (and it wasn't a POA it was something he got when he first enlisted) but after that all I needed was the old one.
By the way....if there's a reserve base near you then go there because the wait is almost nothing. I was in and out in less than 10 minutes with card in hand whereas when I took my son for his at a larger base it took almost 2 hours.
Reply:You can not get one online, you must go to a base...anyone really and get your ID there. No other way.
Reply:You cannot get one online, nor can you get one without the sponsor being with you. If the sponsor is unavailable due to deployment you must have a general power of attorney to get a card.
The RAPIDS office at nearby bases in your area should be contacted first before you go in and wait. They can tell you exactly what is needed before you get there. Also, many local National Guard units are able to issue ID cards with proper documentation.
postnote: If he hasn't been enrolled in DEERS the sponsor has to be with him or he will need orders and/or general power of attorney. Getting the POA is better because any forms that need the sponsor signature can be signed with it.
From the DEERS website at Fort Bragg ARMY base is the following.
► Two forms of Identification, e.g., Drivers license, passport, expired ID Card.
► General Power Of Attorney, Special Power of Attorney that includes DEERS and or ID Cards in the authority given in the Power Of Attorney OR a copy of the Soldier's federal or state mobilization/deployment orders.
--------------------------------------...
Reply:The above answer is correct. When you get the initial dependent card you do not need the sponsor there, you just need the DEERS paperwork stating you are new in the system and the paper that requests an ID for your dependent.
Reply:You can't get them online. you must go to a Military Base (regardless of which service's branch it is) and go to the ID Cards center.
Reply:You can't get them online, you have to go to a base. In central florida your closest base is probably going to be Patrick AFB in Satellite Beach (East Coast) or MacDill AFB in Tampa (west coast). There is also one base to south near Miami (Homestead) and three to the North (Tyndall, Hurlburt and Eglin).
You can go to a bses website by typing www.basename.af.mil. Like eglin is www.eglin.af.mil.
Reply:You can't get it online, but you can get one at any military base. Just do a search for bases near you. Good luck.
Who finds national ID cards noting more than a scam?
Yes this one piece of 3 by 5 piece of plastic is what is going to protect us from terrorism. Basically it will require people, those who wish to obtain a driving permit to get a national ID card or use their passport to do things like board a plane and enter a national park. Basically in an effort to render the state issued Drivers liscence obsolete. Michael chertoff says if states do not want to use this they will be at fault if another terrorist attack occurs.
Who finds national ID cards noting more than a scam?
It is no different then a Drivers License.
Its just now Federal.....
I have no problem with it.
The only ones that fear this type of thing is those that are paranoid or those that have criminal intent, in my opinion.
Reply:The existing forms of ID, passports and drivers license, have been in use for very long, and are easy to falsify / replicate. In order to preserve the security these mechanisms offer, they must be updated periodically. I see no problem with this.
Reply:I read some about this in the article listed below.
I would think that in order to curb or pretty much eliminate possible terrorist entering our country something along these lines has to happen.
I don't know why your states DL would have to become obsolete though. We already have a national ID now with our passports. Making the changes to them to meet stricter ID guide lines shouldn't be a big deal.
Reply:You're right. And anybody that refuses to get a national ID will not be allowed to board a plane. And they're protecting us from terrorism in national parks?
And I totally disagree that this type of ID existed before.
Reply:me
Reply:Anything to sort out who's who in this country is a great idea! If the states are afraid to protect their citizens, let the zfeds have a go at it.
Reply:We already have them. They're called Social Security cards. So I don't know why you're complaining, it's just another card, get over it.
Reply:Just another excuse to get more tax money from citizens and to control us more.
This country is changing by the second....and its not good.
Reply:No, Don't you think we have enough out there to identify us! It just brings us 1 step closer to a fascist state!
Fascism is a government marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls,under the guise of rabid "Nationalism" Sound familiar??
We are losing ground everyday!! PLEASE, PLEASE
WAKE-UP AMERICA!!! "v" We already have them is his POINT!!
Reply:IT'S JUST ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!
Revelations 13
15And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even [c]speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
16And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
17and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
When the government tells you that you have to take a microchip under your skin to prevent welfare fraud, identity theft, illegal immigration, terrorism, and to keep track of sex offenders, and there is no more cash, and you cannot buy groceries without the chip, then you will know that the beast is here.
Who finds national ID cards noting more than a scam?
It is no different then a Drivers License.
Its just now Federal.....
I have no problem with it.
The only ones that fear this type of thing is those that are paranoid or those that have criminal intent, in my opinion.
Reply:The existing forms of ID, passports and drivers license, have been in use for very long, and are easy to falsify / replicate. In order to preserve the security these mechanisms offer, they must be updated periodically. I see no problem with this.
Reply:I read some about this in the article listed below.
I would think that in order to curb or pretty much eliminate possible terrorist entering our country something along these lines has to happen.
I don't know why your states DL would have to become obsolete though. We already have a national ID now with our passports. Making the changes to them to meet stricter ID guide lines shouldn't be a big deal.
Reply:You're right. And anybody that refuses to get a national ID will not be allowed to board a plane. And they're protecting us from terrorism in national parks?
And I totally disagree that this type of ID existed before.
Reply:me
Reply:Anything to sort out who's who in this country is a great idea! If the states are afraid to protect their citizens, let the zfeds have a go at it.
Reply:We already have them. They're called Social Security cards. So I don't know why you're complaining, it's just another card, get over it.
Reply:Just another excuse to get more tax money from citizens and to control us more.
This country is changing by the second....and its not good.
Reply:No, Don't you think we have enough out there to identify us! It just brings us 1 step closer to a fascist state!
Fascism is a government marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls,under the guise of rabid "Nationalism" Sound familiar??
We are losing ground everyday!! PLEASE, PLEASE
WAKE-UP AMERICA!!! "v" We already have them is his POINT!!
Reply:IT'S JUST ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!
Revelations 13
15And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even [c]speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
16And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
17and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18Here is wisdom Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
When the government tells you that you have to take a microchip under your skin to prevent welfare fraud, identity theft, illegal immigration, terrorism, and to keep track of sex offenders, and there is no more cash, and you cannot buy groceries without the chip, then you will know that the beast is here.
What do you think about ID cards for illegal immigrants?
San Fran approves ID cards for illegal immigrants
We've been talking a lot lately about driver's licenses and other forms of identification for illegal immigrants.
The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has tentatively approved a measure allowing municipal identification cards for all - including illegal immigrants. Of course, this surprises few people. San Fran is proud of its place as a sanctuary city for the undocumented. According to the New York Times, the city would become the largest in the nation to provide ID cards to anyone who asks for it.
From The Times story:
In San Francisco, supporters said that the ordinance was intended to make life easier for the large number of illegal immigrants working in the city, many of whom cannot get access to services because they have no formal identification. The city already has a "sanctuary" policy forbidding local law enforcement or other officials to assist with immigration enforcement.
"I think it's admitting the reality of the situation that we depend on, our tourist and hotel industry depends on, a labor force that's supplied by, for lack of a better term, undocumented residents," said Tom Ammiano, the supervisor who sponsored the bill. Mr. Ammiano described the measure as "a passport of sorts," to "take the kid to the library or open a bank account, or report a crime without being deported."
What do you think about ID cards for illegal immigrants?
If the government ID's illegal immigrants they should automatically deport them. The idea that instead they would give them a way to identify themselves during their illegal stay is ludicrous.
Reply:Nothing San Franciso does surprises me. They are the most Anti-American city in the whole US. They are idiots and the Federal Government should cut off all funds to them and force them to enforce the immigration law. That or we can give the decent people a warning that they have so long to get out of the state before it is annexed and kicked out of the Union.
That BS about "keeping track" of them is just a sneaky attempt at tricking those of us that are against illegal immigration. Mark my words, next thing you know they will be voting and all the other rights afforded only to American Citizens will be given to them.
Reply:Surely if you know who they are to give them id they are not illegal. If they are illegal send them home.
By giving them legal status after they arrive you will never deter the flood of illegal immigrants, if they have a valid reason to be in a country then they must declare it before they arrive not sneek in and plead asylum after they have been caught.
Reply:I actually think it's a pretty good idea. It's a good way to keep tabs on who they are and what they are up to. I don't see what harm it could do.
Reply:how about toilet scrubbers?
Reply:I think it's a bad idea. It sounds appealing b/c it suggests that the Govt could keep track of them w/ specialized ID cards. However, there is some potential that they could be altered to look like "real" ID's, allowing any illegal who can get one to never worry about getting busted.
Reply:I guess that America wants another civil war? It is gettiing to that point with all of the illegals that live here now. My City is saturated with them. You cannot even get out of your frichn truck and the morons are jumping in the back? Next time I will leave them there and take them back to the border......!
Reply:well give them a special card. one that gives them rights as a citizen and that we need to treat them the same i mean we are aLL imigrants. dont beleive me the american indians came from the land bridge. from alaska and russia...so get over it
and i agree we should make them go to prisson instead of being deported. thats just low
Reply:I personally think it's a joke. You're giving an illegal alien access to public and government services that legal residents should be allowed to use. There mere presence in this country is a slap in the face to every hard working, legally present person here. If anything, these cards are nothing more than a way for the City of San Francisco to collect revenue. The do little else.
Reply:When we catch them we should deport them not just give them id cards.
Reply:Issuing ID cards to illegal aliens is a clear violation of immigration law. Cities that do so should be sanctioned and enforcement efforts should be put into place. Cities do NOT have authority over immigration issues. Just as it would be against the law to deprive civil rights, it is against the law to expand them in immigration situations.
Reply:bad idea. San Francisco should be blocked off from the rest of us. any city that harbors illegals do not need to get any funds from the rest of us. i think i will be emailing them tomorrow. this is wrong.
Reply:I believe we should give them ID's and when they come in for them put them on a bus back to Mexico. That way we would not have to go and look for them they would come to us.
hot tags
We've been talking a lot lately about driver's licenses and other forms of identification for illegal immigrants.
The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has tentatively approved a measure allowing municipal identification cards for all - including illegal immigrants. Of course, this surprises few people. San Fran is proud of its place as a sanctuary city for the undocumented. According to the New York Times, the city would become the largest in the nation to provide ID cards to anyone who asks for it.
From The Times story:
In San Francisco, supporters said that the ordinance was intended to make life easier for the large number of illegal immigrants working in the city, many of whom cannot get access to services because they have no formal identification. The city already has a "sanctuary" policy forbidding local law enforcement or other officials to assist with immigration enforcement.
"I think it's admitting the reality of the situation that we depend on, our tourist and hotel industry depends on, a labor force that's supplied by, for lack of a better term, undocumented residents," said Tom Ammiano, the supervisor who sponsored the bill. Mr. Ammiano described the measure as "a passport of sorts," to "take the kid to the library or open a bank account, or report a crime without being deported."
What do you think about ID cards for illegal immigrants?
If the government ID's illegal immigrants they should automatically deport them. The idea that instead they would give them a way to identify themselves during their illegal stay is ludicrous.
Reply:Nothing San Franciso does surprises me. They are the most Anti-American city in the whole US. They are idiots and the Federal Government should cut off all funds to them and force them to enforce the immigration law. That or we can give the decent people a warning that they have so long to get out of the state before it is annexed and kicked out of the Union.
That BS about "keeping track" of them is just a sneaky attempt at tricking those of us that are against illegal immigration. Mark my words, next thing you know they will be voting and all the other rights afforded only to American Citizens will be given to them.
Reply:Surely if you know who they are to give them id they are not illegal. If they are illegal send them home.
By giving them legal status after they arrive you will never deter the flood of illegal immigrants, if they have a valid reason to be in a country then they must declare it before they arrive not sneek in and plead asylum after they have been caught.
Reply:I actually think it's a pretty good idea. It's a good way to keep tabs on who they are and what they are up to. I don't see what harm it could do.
Reply:how about toilet scrubbers?
Reply:I think it's a bad idea. It sounds appealing b/c it suggests that the Govt could keep track of them w/ specialized ID cards. However, there is some potential that they could be altered to look like "real" ID's, allowing any illegal who can get one to never worry about getting busted.
Reply:I guess that America wants another civil war? It is gettiing to that point with all of the illegals that live here now. My City is saturated with them. You cannot even get out of your frichn truck and the morons are jumping in the back? Next time I will leave them there and take them back to the border......!
Reply:well give them a special card. one that gives them rights as a citizen and that we need to treat them the same i mean we are aLL imigrants. dont beleive me the american indians came from the land bridge. from alaska and russia...so get over it
and i agree we should make them go to prisson instead of being deported. thats just low
Reply:I personally think it's a joke. You're giving an illegal alien access to public and government services that legal residents should be allowed to use. There mere presence in this country is a slap in the face to every hard working, legally present person here. If anything, these cards are nothing more than a way for the City of San Francisco to collect revenue. The do little else.
Reply:When we catch them we should deport them not just give them id cards.
Reply:Issuing ID cards to illegal aliens is a clear violation of immigration law. Cities that do so should be sanctioned and enforcement efforts should be put into place. Cities do NOT have authority over immigration issues. Just as it would be against the law to deprive civil rights, it is against the law to expand them in immigration situations.
Reply:bad idea. San Francisco should be blocked off from the rest of us. any city that harbors illegals do not need to get any funds from the rest of us. i think i will be emailing them tomorrow. this is wrong.
Reply:I believe we should give them ID's and when they come in for them put them on a bus back to Mexico. That way we would not have to go and look for them they would come to us.
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What else do you think the £5.612bn could be spent on if ID cards were to be scrapped?
The Home Office has said that the cost of ID cards over the next 10 years would be £5.612bn, which of course will actually cost a lot more...*cough*millenium dome/wembley stadium.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...
Instead of making us pay all this, what else could our hard earned cash be spent on?
What else do you think the £5.612bn could be spent on if ID cards were to be scrapped?
Give our pensioners a decent and dignified retirement!!!
Reply:World wide orgy.
Reply:the NHS or help fund the Army as it is stuggling
Reply:immigration control
Reply:cutting NHS waiting lists and sorting out hospital super bugs
Reply:the money could be used to create another crackpot religion, so that the radicals who joined it could set up another crusade against whoever denounces their beliefs, in fact we could set up several and let them blow themselves to pieces, instead of harming innocent human beings going about their normal everyday lives
Reply:We could build another Island with that money , and stick all the "new" Britons on it. Call it New Brittania %26amp; let em fill their boots.
Reply:that would be the price of the bill of the people that formed a group to decide to scrap it.........
its already spent !
Reply:Gordon Brown and John Prescotts dinner
Reply:housing the European asylum seekers
Reply:It will be money well spent. At last they are spending wisely.
Reply:bombs for an all out attack on russia
Reply:Agree with Elvis.
Reply:I'd rather the £5 billion was spent on ID cards then used for another pointless war
Reply:The NHS - maybe it could be put towards bringing back matrons to cut down on the chaos and lack of hygiene in hospitals.
Reply:Trying to find out why people are dying of dirty hospital desease: MRSA, yes people , people are dying because your hospitals are dirty ! jeez!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...
Instead of making us pay all this, what else could our hard earned cash be spent on?
What else do you think the £5.612bn could be spent on if ID cards were to be scrapped?
Give our pensioners a decent and dignified retirement!!!
Reply:World wide orgy.
Reply:the NHS or help fund the Army as it is stuggling
Reply:immigration control
Reply:cutting NHS waiting lists and sorting out hospital super bugs
Reply:the money could be used to create another crackpot religion, so that the radicals who joined it could set up another crusade against whoever denounces their beliefs, in fact we could set up several and let them blow themselves to pieces, instead of harming innocent human beings going about their normal everyday lives
Reply:We could build another Island with that money , and stick all the "new" Britons on it. Call it New Brittania %26amp; let em fill their boots.
Reply:that would be the price of the bill of the people that formed a group to decide to scrap it.........
its already spent !
Reply:Gordon Brown and John Prescotts dinner
Reply:housing the European asylum seekers
Reply:It will be money well spent. At last they are spending wisely.
Reply:bombs for an all out attack on russia
Reply:Agree with Elvis.
Reply:I'd rather the £5 billion was spent on ID cards then used for another pointless war
Reply:The NHS - maybe it could be put towards bringing back matrons to cut down on the chaos and lack of hygiene in hospitals.
Reply:Trying to find out why people are dying of dirty hospital desease: MRSA, yes people , people are dying because your hospitals are dirty ! jeez!
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