Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Do you have id cards in the uk?

in malta we have id cards do you have them in the uk

Do you have id cards in the uk?
No we don't. In a way they would be good in certain circumstances, but on the other hand they will be an invasion of our privacy, and the big brother syndrome.





I personally will do all not to have them.
Reply:not yet, this government wants us to have them but I would fight against them every step of the way.
Reply:In trying to answer your question accurately, the real answer would be, yes we did have. They were issued to all at the start of the second world war I cannot remember when we were allowed out without them, I was probably in the army when they were no longer required. I still have mine. Sorry if this is a useless piece of information, but it is correct.
Reply:No not yet but i would welcome them if you have nothing to hide why worry.
Reply:There is some commotion about them at the moment and it being a breach of human rights (freedom/privacy) or some crap like that





They have started them but its not properly settled in yet





Personally I cant see the point of it ID cards


If it was that much of an issue they should just introduce biometrics and a finger print reader which will identify you from a national database.





Upon putting your finger print on simple ID card information should appear only to prevent a "Big Brother" Society





which would be


Name


Age


Gender


Nationality





Thats really all that should be included





With maybe a special extra field only visible to those with authorised access, IE


Police to have....





Criminal record past


Address details





Ambulance Drivers / Drs and Nurses


Address details


Next of Kin





Airport


Previous destinations and frequency





This will advise if a regular customer, if they are prone to short visits to a specific country and why (such as tabacco importantion may flag up). Any previous history of unacceptable packages, such as Wood into Australia and New Zeland or packages containing liquid, packages containing drugs, or legal drugs but smuggling alcohol / tabacco etc etc





an ID card can be hacked and tampered with, may take time but it can be done. A finger print / iris (eye) scan, it much more difficult to forge.





What people should remember is if the cards does become legalised no one will really care where you are and who you are as long as you have nothing to hide.


If you do then they should have a right to know who they are dealing with for their own safety, it will also deter the person from reoffending if they honestly want to correct them selves as they will feel the constant need to prove them selves.





Also what people forget is when asked for ID as it is, people pull out a passport or drivers licence which contains your full name, DOB, and address on it any way.





The ID cards would standalise it, and I believe another reason its introduced is because they will be adding extra meassures to prevent it being tampered with, such as an electronic tag etc which can be read.





A drivers licence doesnt contain this, so employers could be employing an illegal imigrant for instance using a fake name which would pass under national insurance / tax payer





Were so into condeming illegal immigrants without stopping to realise there the ones who actually work, since they cannot claim JSA or any benefits. Since legally there not even a statistic in the country (Other than a predicted stat of illegal immigrants)


So to survive they are the ones who have to work to get some form of income.





It is the ones who are allowed into the country that have the rights to claim JSA and other benefits and can choose to live off these.





You also have the fact that data has gone missing in the past from government buildings which included the wear abouts of peodophiles, rapists and murderers weare abouts being lost.





So the confidence in all of this has gone a little pearshaped, you also have to take into account there is an active debate call on CCTV as to wether they are being used correctly and do not infringe peoples privacy. CCTV would be an intrution of a persons privacy if its solely used to keep tabs on people rather than being a piece of equipment to capture evidance for court use. However as per the BBC News stated, most of it is just recorded but never really looked at, meaning that its almost there to just deter people from crime but not actually do nething when the time comes (apparently only 3% of crimes are solved with CCTV), people complain about this but the fact is it has helped a lot of shops whom are also equiped with alarms, alot of clubbers and anti-social behaviour with the crime rates a lot lower to 10-15 yrs ago.





NEWS Source: (Back to ID cards though)


BBC





Blair Backs the plan for ID Cards


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4...





Cards %26amp; Biometrics


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3556720.st...





ID Cards could threaten privacy:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...





Airport workers find ID Cards an insult


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...





ID Cards must be free of charge or public will reject


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7...
Reply:The issue of whether or not to impliment them is causing loads of controversy over here. Loads of people don't want them 'cause they think it will be like "Big Brother is watching You" [not that it isn't already...]. It's the whole "Argh terrorism, reduction in freedom and twisting of human rights" thing. We probably will get them in the future, but not quite yet.
Reply:Bongu.


No we don't. Our government is trying to introduce the idea but there is strong resistance to it. This is because people do not trust them to keep the information safe after several cases of data going missing.


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