National ID cards?

When national ID cards come out are you going to get one? why or why not.





I don't think I will, it would be too easy to put a tiny GPS chip in there, and big brother doesn't need to know my every move. Though life will be a bit harder without it.

National ID cards?
There seems to be a little confusion in many of the answers where "GPS" comes up.





First, it's not possible to make a GPS system as small as the asker claims. But RFID tags are a different thing altogether. They're tiny bits of wiring that, when hit with a specific frequency of radio wave, responds by transmitting a unique number. These things can be smaller than a grain of rice, require no power (the RFID reader actually powers them), and cost pennies each. A national ID card would probably have them.





With an RFID tag, someone (anyone, not just the government) could install RFID readers in front of buildings to see who entered and left (and when), and a whole bunch of other privacy-busting data.





Another thing to clear up: GPS devices do not have to transmit to the satellites in order to work. They only have to receive. That greatly reduces the power requirements.
Reply:You know the whole idea kind of bothers me.. and my first reaction was.. "I don't want the government knowing all my business..". but then I thought.." I have nothing to hide.. I am the really average American.. so what is the big deal." If the government wants to check on anything about me now.. it can.. and maybe the card might just help us catch a few undesirables who might be intending harm to this country. My privacy is a lot less important than the safety of the whole country.





My only fear is.. how fast will terrorists get the technology to reproduce same...?
Reply:HOW MUCH MORE CONTROL DO WE NEED
Reply:u r right
Reply:First it would absolutely not be easy to put a small gps chip in it, a small chip would NOT have enough power to transmit your position to a satelite hundreds of miles above the earth.......some are worried about the card having a small RFID chip inside (Radio Frequeency identification), but even that technology has a maximum range of a few feet.....Your cell phone transmit over a few miles and needs a large battery that needs charged every few days but somehow they are going to track you with something the size of credit card for sevral years? .......as far as the national ID....how does that differ from us having ID cards issued be each state? Do you not think that info is available to the federal government?.....Citizens can be tracked very easily now just be the huge amount of electronic trails we live behind (cell phone calls, credit and debit transactions)..... Americans amze me, we demand the government stop illegal immigration yet refuse to allow them to steps to make that happen.





Yes animals are microchipped....these chips have no power source...they react when a scanner of the right frequency is brought within a few millimeters of them..... transmitting over 2 millimeters isnt even in the same universe as trying to transmit hundreds of miles. Physics
Reply:This idea has long been resisted by freedom loving Americans of past generations. I do not feel that it is a good idea in the least. It's really tough to say that "I wouldn't get one. . ." because who knows what disincentives to resistance the government would establish at that time. I thought many people would have been protesting loudly with all of the erosion of civil liberties to date--yet, I haven't seen much of that going on either.
Reply:At this point,I am 50/50 on the issue. While I do not welcome anymore government involvement in our personal lives and I feel this is just another step towards the NAU,I'm afraid at this point we may not have much choice. We can already be tracked with our cell phones,which in certain cases has been a good thing. The card would help weed out those who are not supposed to be in our country. The pro illegal immigration advocates are all against the card because it will almost put an end to those here illegally getting benefits or work.


It has it's good points along with the bad.
Reply:Question back to you: If they had the nano-technology to place a device in the card that could do that, how would they provide the power to run the device? Are you going to be required to plug your card into a charger - LOL





UPDATE: The chips they have in pets etc. are proximity chips. The way they work is that they are 'scanned' by a device that emits energy (Usually RF) that causes the chip to 'power up' and transmit the data. The government would have to generate such a high power signal that it would fry everyone or place millions upon millions of chip readers around the country -





BTW - Check the link below. They don't need a card to track most of us.





BRYCE - RFID (wire) is an old technology that might work. However a proximity chip (Smart Card) that was read / writable would be a better option as it could hold Data and not just a number. The other part about the GPS is true in regards to it just receives data in from the satellite. But in this scenario, the card has to send information out to tell it's location to 'the people tracking you'. We use proximity cards for access control at work. A standard card reader can read a badge from about 4 inches. The long range reader can do it from about 1 foot away and measures 9 inches square.
Reply:another unfunded buh mandate...we'll have to get one...i heard they'll cost upwars of $200
Reply:I think that it is absoulutley absured to even consider getting a national ID card. i live in a country that freedom is a basic right and if ID cards are made it is only a matter of time before they are mandantory. and I as an american citizen should not have to subject myself to the mandantory holding of a national idenification card that could be checked randomly for no apparent reason
Reply:i will not be tagged like a dog or cat and i got a paper in Washington DC and my rifle to make sure i dont have to get one
Reply:The scenario you have visioned is inevitable in the present technologically advanced world! In fact, sooner or later we have to think of introducing Universal ID cards, rather than national ID cards!
Reply:No i'm not and i thing government has way to much control anyway. I don't need them to know every little thing i do or know where i go .
Reply:The Holy Bible says that in order to buy or sell anything you will need to take the mark of the beast (National ID Cards) but you will have given your soul to Satan.





The next step will be implanting the gps chip into the palm of your hand or just under the skin on your forehead.





Their tiny pin-point of a battery will recharge itself with the movement you make doing natural physical activities.





The Holy Bible further says that if you refuse the mark you will be beheaded, but if you take the mark you will spend eternity in Hell with the creator of the National ID Cards.





I'm a Christian so I'll refuse mine, thank you!





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Reply:You have a driver's license, a social security card, a bank card, what is the difference? As for a GPS tracking system, MOST new cell phones already have them.
Reply:We will probably have no choice in the matter. We are already tracked by all our other personal information all the way down to what we buy at the store and when. This is just another step further. Look at all the 18 year old boys who have to register for the selective service--and they don't have a choice. It's another way to "register" all of us.
Reply:I used to be against a national ID card. However I believe it will help us fight illegal immigration. So they can put all the micro chips they want in there. I have nothing to hide.

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